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John Deere says farmers don't own their tractor

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John Deere says farmers don't own their tractors


Business | 208070 hits | Apr 22 12:19 am | Posted by: N_Fiddledog
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It�s official: John Deere and General Motors want to eviscerate the notion of ownership.

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  1. by avatar DrCaleb
    Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:17 pm
    Car manufacturers have been saying this for years. If we didn't own it, why did we give them so much money?

  2. by avatar PublicAnimalNo9
    Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:30 pm
    Nothing runs (to its lawyers) like a Deere.

  3. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:26 pm
    Funny thing, Volvo never complains when people like myself change the programming in the car to improve performance and access the top possible speeds of our cars.

  4. by Thanos
    Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:33 pm
    Lars Ulrich from Metallica and his lawyers got the courts to agree to the same sort of twisted idea. You don't actually own that CD you bought with your own money. It still belongs to the industry and all your money did was pay the rent on that CD for as long as it's in your possession.

  5. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:40 pm
    "Thanos" said
    Lars Ulrich from Metallica and his lawyers got the courts to agree to the same sort of twisted idea. You don't actually own that CD you bought with your own money. It still belongs to the industry and all your money did was pay the rent on that CD for as long as it's in your possession.


    Yeah, well I don't buy music anymore and that idiot court decision had everything to do with it.

  6. by avatar DrCaleb
    Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:41 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    Funny thing, Volvo never complains when people like myself change the programming in the car to improve performance and access the top possible speeds of our cars.


    That's not changing the programming. That's only changing the fuel curve and spark advance tables, power train shift points or the speed limit variable.

    You can't change the that implements that table or runs the fuel system or powertrain. Most manufacturers, like Toyota, don't even allow 3rd parties to access this information; it took Bullydog 5 years to 'black box' reverse engineer Toyota PCMs.

  7. by Thanos
    Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:43 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    Lars Ulrich from Metallica and his lawyers got the courts to agree to the same sort of twisted idea. You don't actually own that CD you bought with your own money. It still belongs to the industry and all your money did was pay the rent on that CD for as long as it's in your possession.


    Yeah, well I don't buy music anymore and that idiot court decision had everything to do with it.

    Yeah, I can understand Lars wanting the money for himself to buy more cars and swimming pools with. That's his right as a creator. Tossing people in jail or successfully suing some kid for $200K for downloading though? Christ, even the Nazis had a better consumer protection for individuals than that.

  8. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:28 pm
    "Thanos" said

    Yeah, I can understand Lars wanting the money for himself to buy more cars and swimming pools with. That's his right as a creator. Tossing people in jail or successfully suing some kid for $200K for downloading though? Christ, even the Nazis had a better consumer protection for individuals than that.



  9. by avatar BRAH
    Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:51 pm
    "Thanos" said
    Lars Ulrich from Metallica and his lawyers got the courts to agree to the same sort of twisted idea. You don't actually own that CD you bought with your own money. It still belongs to the industry and all your money did was pay the rent on that CD for as long as it's in your possession.

    Lars fucked up an oppurtunity to work with Napster instead his ego and greed got in the way.

    Buy a new car and chip it or delete the emission programs on tractors voids the warranty which means the manufacturer owes you jack.



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