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Private-public debate erupts anew over sale of

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Private-public debate erupts anew over sale of Shouldice Hospital


Business | 208053 hits | Sep 18 6:56 am | Posted by: Regina
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There is a presumption that for-profit facilities are more expensive, have worse outcomes and cater to wealthy queue-jumpers, but none of that is true of the Shouldice

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  1. by avatar DrCaleb
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:41 pm
    But, but . . .Private care will gut the public system!

  2. by avatar saturn_656
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:44 pm
    This doesn't seem like a big deal.

  3. by avatar bootlegga
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:47 pm
    As long as the hospital follows the government fee schedule and doesn't allow extra billing, it's no big deal IMHO.

  4. by OnTheIce
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:56 pm
    As mentioned in the article, the blog by Mr. Dhalla resorts to the worst case scenario which isn't a surprise, as that's the direction where most public/private conversations go.

  5. by avatar BeaverFever
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:57 pm
    "bootlegga" said
    As long as the hospital follows the government fee schedule and doesn't allow extra billing, it's no big deal IMHO.



    ...or queue jumping....

  6. by avatar andyt
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:14 pm
    "BeaverFever" said
    As long as the hospital follows the government fee schedule and doesn't allow extra billing, it's no big deal IMHO.



    ...or queue jumping....

    Or creaming off only the most profitable patients.

  7. by OnTheIce
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:21 pm
    Didn't take long for the worst case scenarios to enter the conversation...

  8. by avatar Benn
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:31 pm
    For all the alarmists freaking out over a private company selling to a private company in this case:


  9. by avatar DrCaleb
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:04 pm
    "Benn" said
    For all the alarmists freaking out over a private company selling to a private company in this case:



    It's not about who owns the clinic or hospital - most are already privately owned.

    It's about who pays for the services - public or private .

  10. by OnTheIce
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:20 pm
    "bootlegga" said
    As long as the hospital follows the government fee schedule and doesn't allow extra billing, it's no big deal IMHO.


    What would fall into your definition of extra billing? Charging more for the same service and billing the customer the difference or offering extra services not covered by our health insurance?

  11. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:04 pm
    "andyt" said


    ...or queue jumping....


    Or creaming off only the most profitable patients.

    Neither of your concerns negatively impacts care for public health care patients. To the contrary, even if a private hospital takes queue jumpers and profitable patients the net result is the freeing up of public health care resources for other people.

  12. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:08 pm
    "BartSimpson" said


    ...or queue jumping....


    Or creaming off only the most profitable patients.

    Neither of your concerns negatively impacts care for public health care patients. To the contrary, even if a private hospital takes queue jumpers and profitable patients the net result is the freeing up of public health care resources for other people.

    Got some proof for that?

  13. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:14 pm
    "Gunnair" said

    Neither of your concerns negatively impacts care for public health care patients. To the contrary, even if a private hospital takes queue jumpers and profitable patients the net result is the freeing up of public health care resources for other people.


    Got some proof for that?

    The proof is self evident. Anyone not going to a public facility for care is freeing up those resources for someone else to use.

    Sort of like how my not using the pub in your neighborhood frees up a bar stool for you.

    You're welcome!

  14. by avatar Gunnair  Gold Member
    Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:18 pm
    "BartSimpson" said

    Neither of your concerns negatively impacts care for public health care patients. To the contrary, even if a private hospital takes queue jumpers and profitable patients the net result is the freeing up of public health care resources for other people.


    Got some proof for that?

    The proof is self evident. Anyone not going to a public facility for care is freeing up those resources for someone else to use.

    Sort of like how my not using the pub in your neighborhood frees up a bar stool for you.

    You're welcome!

    Yeah thought not.

    Your analogy might work if your were not using the Pub nor drinking the beer, but you are drinking the beer which is also finite.



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