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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:41 am
 


Title: Private-public debate erupts anew over sale of Shouldice Hospital
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Posted By: Regina
Date: 2012-09-18 06:56:25
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:41 am
 


But, but . . .Private care will gut the public system!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:44 am
 


This doesn't seem like a big deal.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:47 am
 


As long as the hospital follows the government fee schedule and doesn't allow extra billing, it's no big deal IMHO.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:56 am
 


As mentioned in the article, the blog by Mr. Dhalla resorts to the worst case scenario which isn't a surprise, as that's the direction where most public/private conversations go.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:57 am
 


bootlegga bootlegga:
As long as the hospital follows the government fee schedule and doesn't allow extra billing, it's no big deal IMHO.



...or queue jumping....


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:14 am
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:
bootlegga bootlegga:
As long as the hospital follows the government fee schedule and doesn't allow extra billing, it's no big deal IMHO.



...or queue jumping....


Or creaming off only the most profitable patients.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:21 am
 


Didn't take long for the worst case scenarios to enter the conversation...


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:31 am
 


For all the alarmists freaking out over a private company selling to a private company in this case:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:04 am
 


Benn Benn:
For all the alarmists freaking out over a private company selling to a private company in this case:

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It's not about who owns the clinic or hospital - most are already privately owned.

It's about who pays for the services - public or private insurance.


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bootlegga bootlegga:
As long as the hospital follows the government fee schedule and doesn't allow extra billing, it's no big deal IMHO.


What would fall into your definition of extra billing? Charging more for the same service and billing the customer the difference or offering extra services not covered by our health insurance?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:04 pm
 


andyt andyt:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:

...or queue jumping....


Or creaming off only the most profitable patients.


Neither of your concerns negatively impacts care for public health care patients. To the contrary, even if a private hospital takes queue jumpers and profitable patients the net result is the freeing up of public health care resources for other people.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:08 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
andyt andyt:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:

...or queue jumping....


Or creaming off only the most profitable patients.


Neither of your concerns negatively impacts care for public health care patients. To the contrary, even if a private hospital takes queue jumpers and profitable patients the net result is the freeing up of public health care resources for other people.


Got some proof for that?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:14 pm
 


Gunnair Gunnair:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Neither of your concerns negatively impacts care for public health care patients. To the contrary, even if a private hospital takes queue jumpers and profitable patients the net result is the freeing up of public health care resources for other people.


Got some proof for that?


The proof is self evident. Anyone not going to a public facility for care is freeing up those resources for someone else to use.

Sort of like how my not using the pub in your neighborhood frees up a bar stool for you.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:18 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Gunnair Gunnair:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Neither of your concerns negatively impacts care for public health care patients. To the contrary, even if a private hospital takes queue jumpers and profitable patients the net result is the freeing up of public health care resources for other people.


Got some proof for that?


The proof is self evident. Anyone not going to a public facility for care is freeing up those resources for someone else to use.

Sort of like how my not using the pub in your neighborhood frees up a bar stool for you.

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Yeah thought not.

Your analogy might work if your were not using the Pub nor drinking the beer, but you are drinking the beer which is also finite.


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