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Finance ministers reach CPP agreement

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Finance ministers reach CPP agreement


Political | 207793 hits | Jun 20 5:04 pm | Posted by: andyt
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Canada's finance ministers have reached an agreement in principle to revamp Canada's pension plan.

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  1. by avatar andyt
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:05 am
    OMG, $7 each for employees and businesses. People will go broke. Businesses will go broke.

    This is a good way to get Canadians to save a bit more for the future.

  2. by OnTheIce
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:23 am
    "andyt" said
    OMG, $7 each for employees and businesses. People will go broke. Businesses will go broke.

    This is a good way to get Canadians to save a bit more for the future.


    It'll be a far better scenario for Ontario.

  3. by avatar andyt
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 1:01 am
    Absolutely better than Ontario going it alone. One plan across the country that's portable and has economies of scale. Now we should do the same for medicare.

  4. by avatar BeaverFever
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:32 am
    Damn looks like I owe OTI a beer.

    Fuck.

    Ah well everyone has to take one in the shorts every once in a while.

    Anyway I don't see how this CPP enhancement is comparable to ORPP. CPP contributions aren't tax deductible like ORPP and under ORPP if you die before you retire your beneficiary gets your pension, with CPP they're SOL except for a shitty $2500 death benefit.

    I guess they feel it's close enough

    Edited as new details of CPP enhancement were published

  5. by avatar martin14
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:44 am
    I guess they found a way to steal even more money from CPP in the future as well. :lol:

  6. by avatar BeaverFever
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:41 am
    "martin14" said
    I guess they found a way to steal even more money from CPP in the future as well. :lol:


    I'm interested to know who you think steals from CPP and how?

  7. by OnTheIce
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:46 pm
    "BeaverFever" said
    Damn looks like I owe OTI a beer.

    Fuck.

    Ah well everyone has to take one in the shorts every once in a while.

    Anyway I don't see how this CPP enhancement is comparable to ORPP. CPP contributions aren't tax deductible like ORPP and under ORPP if you die before you retire your beneficiary gets your pension, with CPP they're SOL except for a shitty $2500 death benefit.

    I guess they feel it's close enough

    Edited as new details of CPP enhancement were published


    The question remains, what's it going to cost Ontario to shut down the ORPP?

  8. by avatar BeaverFever
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:34 pm
    I'm assuming that most of the costs are already incurred - hiring and promotion and program development. I can't imagine there'd be much more left to spend, except a few severance packages and maybe some consultant termination fees.

  9. by OnTheIce
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:52 pm
    "BeaverFever" said
    I'm assuming that most of the costs are already incurred - hiring and promotion and program development. I can't imagine there'd be much more left to spend, except a few severance packages and maybe some consultant termination fees.


    Nothing with this government ends well or cheap.

    Costs will run into the millions in severance packages alone.

  10. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:21 pm
    Chile does it better.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensions_in_Chile

  11. by avatar martin14
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:35 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    Chile does it better.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensions_in_Chile



    Several East Euro countries have implemented a private pension scheme,
    because the government system is already way broke as a result of Communist
    levels of contributions ( as in very very little )

    Results are mixed at best.

  12. by avatar BeaverFever
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:06 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    Chile does it better.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensions_in_Chile


    I'm not so sure.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/27/busin ... .html?_r=0

    It does seem very lucrative for the financial sector, however, where most of the positive press probably comes from.

  13. by avatar Winnipegger
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:39 pm
    "andyt" said
    OMG, $7 each for employees and businesses. People will go broke. Businesses will go broke.

    "CBC" said
    That would increase to $34 a month by 2023.

  14. by Lemmy
    Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:48 pm
    Great. More money the government's promising to give back to me for my retirement...unless I'm among the 18% of the population who are busy being dead by the time they're eligible to receive it.



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