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Political | 207154 hits | Mar 18 7:40 am | Posted by: uwish
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is recommending the appointment of seven new senators -- the first appointees to the upper chamber in three years.

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  1. by avatar uwish
    Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:42 pm
    hum, but Trudeau said he doesn't have any Liberal senators? How is this 'restoring confidence" in the upper house he is doing the same thing as any other PM

  2. by avatar andyt
    Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:47 pm
    From the op:
    All the new senators will be independent. As such, Harder�s role as government representative will be to �facilitate the introduction and consideration of government legislation,� the Prime Minister's Office said in a statement.


    Back in January, the Liberals named an advisory board to help Prime Minister Justin Trudeau make his picks for the Red Chamber. Only three provinces � Ontario, Manitoba and Quebec � are participating in that advisory board right now. The federal government has stated those three are involved because they have the most vacancies in the Senate. British Columbia has declined to participate in the advisory board process.

    Trudeau had promised to create the advisory body two years ago, when he kicked all Liberal senators out of his party's caucus. The objective was to appoint new senators based on merit, rather than party affiliation.


    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/senate- ... -1.3496977

  3. by avatar uwish
    Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:54 pm
    every one of these 7 are die hard liberal supporters or have been in the past...so much for being independent!

  4. by avatar 2Cdo
    Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:54 pm
    "andyt" said
    From the op:
    All the new senators will be independent. As such, Harder�s role as government representative will be to �facilitate the introduction and consideration of government legislation,� the Prime Minister's Office said in a statement.


    Back in January, the Liberals named an advisory board to help Prime Minister Justin Trudeau make his picks for the Red Chamber. Only three provinces � Ontario, Manitoba and Quebec � are participating in that advisory board right now. The federal government has stated those three are involved because they have the most vacancies in the Senate. British Columbia has declined to participate in the advisory board process.

    Trudeau had promised to create the advisory body two years ago, when he kicked all Liberal senators out of his party's caucus. The objective was to appoint new senators based on merit, rather than party affiliation.


    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/senate- ... -1.3496977


    And anyone believes that they are as dumb as a bag of rocks. ROTFL

  5. by avatar martin14
    Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:11 pm
    "2Cdo" said
    And anyone believes that they are as dumb as andy's bags of rocks. ROTFL



    Just a tweak of truth. :lol:

  6. by avatar andyt
    Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:15 pm
    "uwish" said
    every one of these 7 are die hard liberal supporters or have been in the past...so much for being independent!


    You're really up on who's a Liberal supporter, you follow people that closely? How about this guy: Frances Lankin, a former Ontario NDP cabinet minister and a national security expert?

    You got something to back up that these are all die hard Liberal supporters? I doubt they're die hard Reformacons, that doesn't make them Liberal supporters.

  7. by avatar martin14
    Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:32 pm
    "andyt" said
    You're really up on who's a Liberal supporter, you follow people that closely? How about this guy: Frances Lankin, a former Ontario NDP cabinet minister and a national security expert?



    For starters, she's a girl, not a guy.



    You should probably take a day off today. ROTFL

  8. by avatar DrCaleb
    Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:34 pm
    I think he should wait and let the next Prime Minister appoint them.

  9. by avatar andyt
    Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:03 pm
    "martin14" said
    You're really up on who's a Liberal supporter, you follow people that closely? How about this guy: Frances Lankin, a former Ontario NDP cabinet minister and a national security expert?



    For starters, she's a girl, not a guy.



    You should probably take a day off today. ROTFL

    Oh, that certainly makes her a die hard Liberal supporter then. The NDP thing was just a front. Good catch on your part.

  10. by avatar andyt
    Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:10 pm
    Trudeau's senators mark a break from the Senate's reputation
    Prime minister nominates 7 new senators, none with ties to the Liberal Party

    The seven individuals selected by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for appointment to the Senate �parliamentary astronauts sent off into the great unknown � might be most easily defined by what they are not.

    None of the seven are former Liberal cabinet ministers or defeated Liberal candidates. Nowhere on Friday's list was there a high-ranking political adviser to the Liberal prime minister, nor a noted Liberal Party official, organizer or fundraiser.

    The prime minister thus cannot be accused of using the Red Chamber as a "dumping ground" for "party hacks" and "bagmen" (to employ some of the unflattering terms that have been used around the discussion of Senate appointments in the past). These are, with one caveat, non-partisan appointments, basically of the sort that the Liberal campaign commitment might have seemed to suggest.


    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau ... -1.3497489


    you were saying, uwish?

  11. by avatar Caelon
    Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:58 pm
    OR instead of a nonpartisan committee he could simply appoint the senators elected in each province to fill the vacancies. No constitution amendments are required and the senators would visually more accountable to the area they represent.

  12. by avatar andyt
    Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:54 pm
    An elected Senate becomes another politically powerful body. Good chance it wold be at odds with the house of commons, leading to the kind of gridlock they get in the US. Also, how would you distribute the seats? Quebec is constitutionally guaranteed 25%. Do you really want another politically powerful body that is dominated by Quebec and Ontario? If the Reformacons get into government again, while Quebec and Ontario elect Liberals, what a mess that would be. It's rare right now for the Senate to deny legislation passed by the lower house, it wouldn't be if the Senate were as equally politically empowered.

    I don't know if this is constitutionally possible, but I'd like to see the Senate just be and advisory body. Ie sober second thought before the legislation is voted on in the commons, to give advice to the house of commons. So if the Senate comes out strongly against a piece of legislation, they couldn't stop it, but there might be a political cost to be paid by the governing party. If this were a go, it should certainly mean reducing the number of Senators and instituting term limits.

  13. by avatar BeaverFever
    Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:57 am
    Just get rid of the damn senate, there's no point to it. It's either run by the PM, in which case it's redundant, or it's not, in which case you have American style legislative gridlock with its ineffectual government and lack of accountability.

  14. by avatar andyt
    Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:12 pm
    Tell that to the Supremes. Or Quebec or PEI. Gotta work within the possible, so what Trudeau did seems most reasonable.



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