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Robin Elgie finally home after devastating dog

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Robin Elgie finally home after devastating dog attack


Law & Order | 206918 hits | Mar 15 8:26 am | Posted by: andyt
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Robin Elgie, a Fort St. John man who was injured in a dog attack Christmas Day, is home after seven surgeries to repair his damaged arms.

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  1. by avatar andyt
    Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:26 pm
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    The usual suspects.


    Two bully-breed dogs attacked the 66-year-old in his Fort. St. John trailer after chasing his small dog Goldie inside, then turned on him and his girlfriend, also killing their cat.

    "They were the friendliest things ever. They were licking me so hard my glasses came off. These are not killer dogs," said Candace Buchamer, branch manager of the North Peace SPCA, who was familiar with both dogs.


    Friendliest dogs ever - until they're not.

    The injured man's work prospects may be limited. It will take at least two years before he recovers well enough to drive, and he will need a special knob on a steering wheel, as his left hand is permanently damaged, doctors told his daughter, Sheryl Elgie.

    Doctors were also forced to cut off the tip of the mechanic's index finger to save his arm from an infection.

  2. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:10 pm
    Makes you wonder why they were called 'Nanny Dogs' because of their lack of concern with strangers but fierce protection of children.

    Oh, that's right!

    http://www.pickthepit.com/



    Most people can't actually identify what a 'pit bull' is, so they end up being blamed for things they didn't do.

    http://whatapittie.org/misidentified-mi ... understood

    Who identified this dog as a putbull? The daughter, not the SPCA.

  3. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:08 pm
    Another tragedy, and with the usual suspects . . or not.

    Toronto Animal Services had identified the attack dogs as Cane Corsos, a muscular breed with strength and bite force often compared to the likes of pit bulls.


    http://www.680news.com/2016/03/15/five- ... d-mauling/

  4. by avatar andyt
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:51 pm
    "DrCaleb" said


    Who identified this dog as a putbull? The daughter, not the SPCA.


    I posted a pic of the dog in the first post. What breed does it look like to you? Cocker Spaniel?

  5. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:09 pm
    "andyt" said


    Who identified this dog as a putbull? The daughter, not the SPCA.


    I posted a pic of the dog in the first post. What breed does it look like to you? Cocker Spaniel?

    Nothing in the article indicates the dog in the photo is related to the story. It might just be a stock photo. And that's why I posted the 'misidentification' guide. The dog in the girl's lap is also a 'Pit Bull'. Why do they look so different?

    The dog in the picture could be a Staffordshire Terrier, American Pitbull, Thai Ridgeback, an Argentino, or just a mutt. That's why 'Pitbull' isn't a registered breed - because there is no consistent physical attributes for them. That's also why many dog attacks are labelled as being from 'Pitbulls' when they likely aren't.

    Have a look at all the physical characteristics of the 'American Pitbull': http://americanpitbullfoundation.com/

    And second, the news media frequently misidentifies breeds and types of dogs. Breed identification is next to impossible, especially in the case of mixed breed dogs (the majority of dogs in the U.S.). It often consists of a wild guess based on appearance, not DNA testing or any truly scientific method of identification. Journalists may record a dog�s breed based on statements from a victim, a neighbor, an animal control officer, a police officer, or a dog owner�none of whom may be experienced with breed identification. Journalists may also make a wild guess based on their own visual assessment of the dog. News media also tends to identify dogs as �pit bulls� even when they are not pit bulls. Corrections, if they are made, are usually obscure. Thus, breed-specific data from studies that rely on media sources to identify breeds must be considered non-scientific and unreliable.


    http://stopbsl.org/fortherecord/scientific-studies/

  6. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:12 pm
    The Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics Behind Dog Bites

    If you've ever had a conversation about pit bulls, then you've probably heard about pit bull bite statistics. Statistics that, at face value, may seem concerning. Statistics that have been used to affect public policy at times, labeling all dogs of a certain type as inherently vicious and dangerous upon birth.



    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steffen-b ... 12394.html


  7. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:14 pm
    http://www.animalfarmfoundation.org/pag ... fographics

  8. by avatar andyt
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:20 pm
    Go ahead, clutch at straws.

  9. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:31 pm
    "andyt" said
    Go ahead, clutch at straws.


    Straws? Like the fact that breeds are often misidentified by professionals?

    Straws like the American Veterinary Association report on dog bites?

    Most DBRFs were characterized by coincident, preventable factors; breed was not one of these. Study results supported previous recommendations for multifactorial approaches, instead of single-factor solutions such as breed-specific legislation, for dog bite prevention.


    http://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/abs/10 ... 43.12.1726

    Poor Betty White, she never stood a chance.



    I think you have confused 'straws' with 'facts'.

  10. by avatar andyt
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:35 pm
    Like that it's not a pic of one of the dogs that attacked. Maybe that's not a pic of the victim besides the dog either.

    Like that lame guide to pit bull identification. Just shows how desperate the pro-pitbull side really is.

  11. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:40 pm
    "andyt" said
    Like that it's not a pic of one of the dogs that attacked. Maybe that's not a pic of the victim besides the dog either.

    Like that lame guide to pit bull identification. Just shows how desperate the pro-pitbull side really is.


    We don't have pictures of the dogs that attacked this man.

    What we do have is innuendo and one person's say so. And I'm not pro-pit bull, like always, I'm pro-fact. And the facts are than most dog attacks attributed to 'pit bulls' are not carried out by pit bulls.

    That one in Ontario carried out by Cane Corsos should have been the clue there. (and who the fuck would have 4 Cane Corsos? Are they fucking nuts?)

  12. by Thanos
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:56 pm
    Having four big dogs is dangerous no matter what type they are. Corsos are generally mellow as individuals, as far as guard dogs go, but anything can happen when they form a pack.

    Toronto SUN had a picture yesterday of them wrangling a dog involved in a biting. Not a pittie. Looked more like a Labrador/sheepdog mix. Not a good combo of breeds to have in an animal.

  13. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:00 pm
    "Thanos" said
    Having four big dogs is dangerous no matter what type they are. Corsos are generally mellow as individuals, as far as guard dogs go, but anything can happen when they form a pack.


    That's why I was wondering. At the dog park, you could get 5 dogs together and they'd form a 'pack'. But very loosely. A Wolfhound, Lab and Weimaraner won't form a hunting pack, but 3 Wolfhounds somehow changed the dynamic. Like the difference between airplanes taking off from an airport and the Snowbirds flying in formation. 8O

    I can't imaging one person trying to handle 4 Cane Corsos' once they decided to form a pack.

  14. by Thanos
    Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:27 pm
    Yeah, the Corsos are one of the most physically powerful breeds out there. I can't imagine being able to contain one of them if it got uppity, much less corralling four of them. I haven't encountered more than a couple of pitbulls in my life but they seemed OK even though I was hesitant to get too close to them. That was mostly because I knew their owners were lowlife assholes so I didn't want to risk it in case the dogs had turned out the same. The most scared I ever got was by an Akita. They're dangerous and they've got an untrustworthy personality, which isn't surprising because they were bred originally as an attack dog by the Japanese. I can't stand sheepdogs either, the medium-sized black/white ones that are always skulking. The closest I ever got to being bitten was by one of those things. It started circling me, trying to herd me, and it started getting nasty when I didn't co-operate. I even tossed my drink mug at it to get it to fuck off but it wouldn't bugger off until one if it's owners ran up to get it. I figured that there was no way that some little kid wouldn't eventually get bit by that evil fucker. I've hated them ever since.



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