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B.C. condo language dispute sparks human rights

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B.C. condo language dispute sparks human rights complaint


Misc CDN | 207809 hits | Dec 23 5:32 pm | Posted by: andyt
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'Mandarin-only' meetings have sparked a human rights complaint at a B.C. condo where English speakers are feeling cut out.

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  1. by avatar martin14
    Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:46 am
    "It feels like you are an outsider," Andreas Kargut, owner of one of the 54 units in Wellington Court on Heather Street in Richmond.


    Well, you are.
    And the city won't do anything to help you.

  2. by avatar andyt
    Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:53 am
    Not much the city can do. Nothing in the strata code that makes this illegal. Let's hope they get satisfaction at the Human Rights Council, tho being white men makes that unlikely.

    It's not just about the language, but people using proxy votes to kick all the whities off council. Just imagine if the reverse happened.

    This is why you should never buy strata. When strata council enacted a ban on bikes, I had two expensive bikes stolen within weeks, leaving them in my locker.(Locked to a solid water pipe, but they got them anyway.) The building was new, so when I bought there were no regs against bikes. I'll never buy strata again. Too many horror stories.

  3. by avatar raydan
    Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:28 pm
    A few years ago, I said (a bit tongue in cheek) to you guys that like Qu�bec protecting French, the ROC would eventually have to start protecting English... well, it's starting. :lol:

  4. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:21 pm
    "raydan" said
    A few years ago, I said (a bit tongue in cheek) to you guys that like Qu�bec protecting French, the ROC would eventually have to start protecting English... well, it's starting. :lol:


    Exactly. R=UP

  5. by Canadian_Mind
    Fri Dec 25, 2015 2:45 am
    "raydan" said
    A few years ago, I said (a bit tongue in cheek) to you guys that like Qu�bec protecting French, the ROC would eventually have to start protecting English... well, it's starting. :lol:


    And this is why I've never been a vocal protester of bill 101, rather I'm a silent supporter because to do otherwise would be politically incorrect.

    I do think that nationwide bilingualism is bullshit though. Let each province determine whether it will be officially French, officially English, or officially both. I'd imagine all provinces and territories would adopt strictly English except for Ontario and NB (which I imagine would be bilingual) and Quebec (which I expect would opt to be strictly French).

    If it isn't already this way, no language but English or French (depending on the province); or, Native American/Inuit language when on native lands or in the territories, may be used for any form of business interaction, whether it be formal or informal.

  6. by JaredMilne
    Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:44 am
    "raydan" said
    A few years ago, I said (a bit tongue in cheek) to you guys that like Qu�bec protecting French, the ROC would eventually have to start protecting English... well, it's starting. :lol:


    R=UP

    As I've noted before, the rest of us are dealing with the same issues that Quebecers have had to for years. It's just that these things came to the fore sooner in Quebec because that's the only part of Canada where French is a majority, surrounded by Canadian provinces and American states where English is the majority.

    "Canadian_Mind" said


    And this is why I've never been a vocal protester of bill 101, rather I'm a silent supporter because to do otherwise would be politically incorrect.

    I do think that nationwide bilingualism is bullshit though. Let each province determine whether it will be officially French, officially English, or officially both. I'd imagine all provinces and territories would adopt strictly English except for Ontario and NB (which I imagine would be bilingual) and Quebec (which I expect would opt to be strictly French).

    If it isn't already this way, no language but English or French (depending on the province); or, Native American/Inuit language when on native lands or in the territories, may be used for any form of business interaction, whether it be formal or informal.


    Excellent proposals, although I would add the provisio that every province has a legal and constitutional responsibility to its official language minority. English-language schools, court services, and government services where warranted for Anglos in Quebec, as well as the ability to use English in the Quebec legislature...and the same things in French for the other provinces, except for the officially bilingual New Brunswick. Otherwise, you're left with the sticky situation where Quebec is the only province expected to provide English-language court services, schooling, etc.

    But English and French, and Aboriginal languages in Aboriginal jurisdictions, should (and in some ways already do) have a special legal and constitutional status that Mandarin, Spanish, Ukrainian, do not.

    Just as Quebec has been ahead of the game in trying to address how multiculturalism and minorities fit into a majority society, I think that it's also been ahead of the game with its language laws. Bill 101 provides a number of exceptions and exemptions for the Anglo-Quebecois community (commentator Christian Dufour talks about English having a "special place" in Quebec, while G�rard Bouchard has talked about how it would be "criminal" for Quebec to turn its back on English), I think that most of the other provinces passing similar language laws establishing English as their official languages, with special exceptions and exemptions for French similar to the special status Bill 101 accords English in Quebec, would be a terrific idea.

  7. by avatar BRAH
    Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:00 pm
    He lives near Hongcouver, instead of filing the complaint he could have approached the condo board with fortune cookies asking they change their BS.

  8. by avatar andyt
    Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:10 pm
    Actually, Richmond is China central, Vancouver west side is only becoming that way. He did approach the board and was refused.

  9. by avatar BRAH
    Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:25 pm
    No matter where you live ethnic groups tend to stick to their own and unfortunately for this guy they're running the condo board.



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