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Saudi millionaire Ehsan Abdulaziz cleared of ra

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Saudi millionaire Ehsan Abdulaziz cleared of raping teen in Maida Vale


Law & Order | 206979 hits | Dec 16 12:17 am | Posted by: N_Fiddledog
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A Saudi millionaire has been cleared of raping a teenager after claiming he might have accidentally penetrated the 18-year-old when he tripped and fell.

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  1. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:24 am
    It wasn't rape. He tripped.

    Hear that UK gang groomers? You should have tried that.

    "We all just tripped. Sorry bout that."

  2. by avatar Delwin
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:18 am
    Law is about proving a case beyond a reasonable doubt and not the story he gave. If I am accused of killing JFK and I say I was riding a unicorn at the time, it has no bearing on my guilt or innocence. The guy beat the charge because the crown didn't make their case, not because his story was credible. also, he gave multiple stories and likely didn't take the stand. Being full of shit isn't a crime in and of itself. If it was, you'd be posting from a maximum security facility.

    And if that was the case, I'd collect all of your posts and call them the "Fibby Dog Liaries ". Then I'd sell them for a fortune once all of your appeals ran out and they made you ride the lightning.

  3. by avatar desertdude
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:38 pm
    Unfortunately they've retired ol'sparky.

  4. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:20 pm
    He tripped. And the UK court gleefully accepted this bullshit explanation so as to avoid upsetting their buddies in Saudi Arabia. Cowards. :roll:

  5. by avatar andyt
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:32 pm
    The jury cleared Mr Abdulaziz of one count of rape after half an hour of deliberations.


    I wonder what kind of people made up that jury. Probably the same types that could write off the grooming gang victims as slags. Ie good middle class burghers.

  6. by avatar andyt
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:50 pm
    "Delwin" said
    Law is about proving a case beyond a reasonable doubt and not the story he gave. If I am accused of killing JFK and I say I was riding a unicorn at the time, it has no bearing on my guilt or innocence. The guy beat the charge because the crown didn't make their case, not because his story was credible. also, he gave multiple stories and likely didn't take the stand. Being full of shit isn't a crime in and of itself. If it was, you'd be posting from a maximum security facility.

    And if that was the case, I'd collect all of your posts and call them the "Fibby Dog Liaries ". Then I'd sell them for a fortune once all of your appeals ran out and they made you ride the lightning.


    It comes down to he said she said. But when the defendant is obviously lying, "I tripped" that would certainly sway me to her side of the story.

    But change the actors where the man becomes some rightwing icon and the woman a Muslim, and the same people frothing about letting him off would be calling her a liar and saying there's no evidence to convict.

  7. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:09 pm
    "Delwin" said
    Law is about proving a case beyond a reasonable doubt and not the story he gave. If I am accused of killing JFK and I say I was riding a unicorn at the time, it has no bearing on my guilt or innocence. The guy beat the charge because the crown didn't make their case, not because his story was credible. also, he gave multiple stories and likely didn't take the stand. Being full of shit isn't a crime in and of itself. If it was, you'd be posting from a maximum security facility.

    And if that was the case, I'd collect all of your posts and call them the "Fibby Dog Liaries ". Then I'd sell them for a fortune once all of your appeals ran out and they made you ride the lightning.


    Cause if the 'glove doesn't fit, you must acquit' right Snivels?

    Let's call it Del's "Unicorn defense.'

    If it's PC and fits the progressive agenda then there's gotta be a way to make that the truth, right? And anybody not on board is a liar.

    In this case he's the right type that he can do nothing wrong in the Prog's eye view, so he didn't. That's Del's standard of truth.

    Basically this is getting boring. All the 'Regressives' have now are some tall stories and a few insults.

  8. by avatar Delwin
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:17 pm
    "andyt" said
    Law is about proving a case beyond a reasonable doubt and not the story he gave. If I am accused of killing JFK and I say I was riding a unicorn at the time, it has no bearing on my guilt or innocence. The guy beat the charge because the crown didn't make their case, not because his story was credible. also, he gave multiple stories and likely didn't take the stand. Being full of shit isn't a crime in and of itself. If it was, you'd be posting from a maximum security facility.

    And if that was the case, I'd collect all of your posts and call them the "Fibby Dog Liaries ". Then I'd sell them for a fortune once all of your appeals ran out and they made you ride the lightning.


    It comes down to he said she said. But when the defendant is obviously lying, "I tripped" that would certainly sway me to her side of the story.

    But change the actors where the man becomes some rightwing icon and the woman a Muslim, and the same people frothing about letting him off would be calling her a liar and saying there's no evidence to convict.I would agree under most circumstances. However, given that it is the Daily Mail and they never miss an opportunity to take something out of context to slag a Muslim, I'd say there could be more to the story.

    If taken out of context the interrogation it could read like:

    Accused: Look, she is making this up, she came back to my apartment and she had agreed to have sex, when she found out later I was loaded, she made up a bullshit story. I told you this 20 times.

    Detective: OK so tell us again how she has your DNA inside her.

    Accused(Flippant): Oh, I don't know, I guess I tripped and my dick fell inside her.

    I don't know the context but again, the context does mean something. I tried to find the transcript and I found the case without the transcript. I'm not sure if England has the same freedom of information that we do.

    Southwark Crown Court verdict read on Dec, 15, 2015.

    Docket number T20157187. If anyone can find it.

  9. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:36 pm
    "Delwin" said
    I would agree under most circumstances. However, given that it is the Daily Mail and they never miss an opportunity to take something out of context to slag a Muslim, I'd say there could be more to the story.


    I think what the Regressives really hate about the Mail is not so much the way they tell the story, but the fact they tell it.

    It's supposed to be generally accepted that there's some stories that should not be told - some facts that the 'Proles' are better off not knowing about. For their own good you understand. :wink:

    The Mail are bunch of big fat blabbermouths in Progworld.

    It's funny though if you just look at style, even the Mail leans left. Watch the way they tell the story of say an anti-immigration riot. The Left anti-fa, black Bloc-ers will be the good guys even when they start the trouble (which is always). Even with The Mail what they call 'the far right' will be the instigators of any trouble at the rally by existing. If the leftists reporting for the Mail can't find somebody on the right in the crowd doing something obnoxious you won't hear about them. And if Islamics turn up, they're 'Asians'.

    It's not the way the Mail tells a story that the Regressives object to. They do that much of their reporting according to the Regressive manual.

  10. by peck420
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:48 pm
    I find it rather intriguing that everyone is questioning his version of events...but, not hers.

    Both are equally ridiculous. I am not shocked in the least that 'reasonable doubt' was obtained.

  11. by Lemmy
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:51 pm
    That's the problem with most sexual assault cases. They're "He said, she said". Which means we can rarely resolve these issues to the criminal standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt". Fact is, most rapists are found not guilty and many convicted rapists are innocent.

  12. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:54 pm
    "peck420" said
    I find it rather intriguing that everyone is questioning his version of events...but, not hers.

    Both are equally ridiculous. I am not shocked in the least that 'reasonable doubt' was obtained.


    That's interesting.

    What part of a story that goes 'a drunken teen wound up passed out on the couch at the after-hours place she and her friend went to, and she got attacked' do you think never happens?

  13. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:56 pm
    "andyt" said

    But change the actors where the man becomes some rightwing icon and the woman a Muslim, and the same people frothing about letting him off would be calling her a liar and saying there's no evidence to convict.


    All the same, change the actors like you said and you know the guy would be in jail.

  14. by avatar Delwin
    Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:59 pm
    The mail are the worst. Given that only the rags picked this up, I'm guessing there is much more to this story than meets the eye.

    This rag tells a little more of it, but most of the details are still unknown.

    Ehsan Abdulaziz allegedly forced himself on 18-year-old as she slept on his sofa after meeting him at West End nightclub

    A millionaire property developer accused of raping a teenager as she slept claims he accidentally penetrated her when he fell on top of her, a court heard.

    Ehsan Abdulaziz, 46, allegedly forced himself on the 18-year-old on his sofa in his Maida Vale flat. His alleged victim met Abdulaziz in the Cirque le Soir nightclub, in London's West End, where she had been spending the evening with a friend.

    Abdulaziz had known the complainant's friend for six or seven months, Southwark Crown Court heard, and offered to give the two women a lift home in his Aston Martin on August 7 last year.

    He then invited the pair into his flat for a nightcap, before taking the woman he knew into the bedroom for sex.


    "She got up to find her friend, tried to wake her but couldn't, she then tried to get out of the flat as quickly as she could"
    prosecutor Jonathan Davies
    The next thing the alleged victim remembers is waking up in the early hours of the morning on the sofa with Abdulaziz on top of her forcing himself inside her, it is claimed.

    Prosecutor Jonathan Davies said: "She said 'what are you doing?' he said 'it's fine' indicating that her friend was asleep. She got up to find her friend, tried to wake her but couldn't, she then tried to get out of the flat as quickly as she could.

    The case is being heard at Southwark Crown Court
    The case is being held at Southwark Crown Court Alamy Stock Photo

    "She was very upset about what had happened to her and because she couldn't wake her friend, she called two friends, she then called the police."

    When Abdulaziz was arrested, he responded: "She'll have to prove it."

    He said that he had woken the woman at 5.30am when he went to get a glass of water from the kitchen and to switch off the TV.

    Abdulaziz claimed the teenager pulled him onto her and placed his hand between her legs. But he said she become angry when he had offered to call her a taxi and stormed into the bedroom to wake her friend.

    "She'll have to prove it"
    Ehsan Abdulaziz to police
    He is then said to have changed his story after DNA tests found traces of his semen.

    Mr Davies said: "That caused him to be re-interviewed in May this year and he was confronted with that finding.

    "On this occasion he said after he had sex with the complainant's friend his penis was still erect and he had semen on his hands when he went into the living room.

    "He said in the second interview she pushed his hands down on to her vagina. He said that he did fall onto her and his penis may have penetrated her vagina. You may consider, members of the jury, him changing the account he was giving."

    Abdulaziz, of Maida Vale, denies rape and the trial continues.



    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... f-her.html

    So now the story becomes, the girl and her friend were at the club, her friend knew the guy for 7 months, he has sex with the friend, then shortly after goes into the other room to turn on the TV, and drunk teen pulls him onto her and she pushes his hands which still have semen on them down to her vagina.

    I'm not saying I believe this either but I think it can be agreed that it is ridiculous how much crucial info daily mail leaves out of the story.



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