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Toronto man denied subsidized housing for not being Muslim


Religion | 209339 hits | Aug 26 12:15 am | Posted by: N_Fiddledog
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A disabled Toronto man had his name removed from the waiting list of a subsidized city apartment because he does not meet the main criteria for living there: being Muslim.

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  1. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:24 am

  2. by avatar BeaverFever
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:57 pm
    Hmm...

    I wonder why they didn't do a story on the Chinese, German, Hungarian, Lithuanian, Catholic, etc. etc. groups that only provide subsidized housing to people from their own communities?

    Also, I notice that CTV coincidentally did a story on the same day but a Toronto Woman denied there, so it feels like someone is conducting a media campaign.

    A man puts up a sign that says "Chinese only"

    Another puts up a sign that says "Catholics only"

    Another puts up a sign that says "Lithuanians only"

    Another puts up a sign that says "Muslims only".

    Headline: "Muslims denying access to non-Muslims!!!!!!"

  3. by avatar QBall
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:03 pm
    I can see why many residences want to cater only to certain groups as many seniors want to be surrounded by that which makes them comfortable, including being surrounded by members of their own ethnicity/faith. This also means that that particular residence is going to arrange activities/daily routines based on that particular culture/faith (i.e. Muslim residences arranging the day around prayer time) . If buddy isn't a member of that faith/group why would he want to live there? Because the rent is cheap? Maybe he needs to look at the big picture instead of trying to get his 15 minutes.

  4. by OnTheIce
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:09 pm
    "BeaverFever" said
    Hmm...

    I wonder why they didn't do a story on the Chinese, German, Hungarian, Lithuanian, Catholic, etc. etc. groups that only provide subsidized housing to people from their own communities?

    Also, I notice that CTV coincidentally did a story on the same day but a Toronto Woman denied there, so it feels like someone is conducting a media campaign.

    A man puts up a sign that says "Chinese only"

    Another puts up a sign that says "Catholics only"

    Another puts up a sign that says "Lithuanians only"

    Another puts up a sign that says "Muslims only".

    Headline: "Muslims denying access to non-Muslims!!!!!!"


    Regardless of which group they targeted, IMO, this practice is unacceptable and I'm glad it's come to light.

  5. by avatar PublicAnimalNo9
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:02 pm
    "BeaverFever" said
    Hmm...

    I wonder why they didn't do a story on the Chinese, German, Hungarian, Lithuanian, Catholic, etc. etc. groups that only provide subsidized housing to people from their own communities?

    Also, I notice that CTV coincidentally did a story on the same day but a Toronto Woman denied there, so it feels like someone is conducting a media campaign.

    A man puts up a sign that says "Chinese only"

    Another puts up a sign that says "Catholics only"

    Another puts up a sign that says "Lithuanians only"

    Another puts up a sign that says "Muslims only".

    Headline: "Muslims denying access to non-Muslims!!!!!!"
    of which is illegal. You cannot deny a person a place to live based on race, ethnicity, religion or physical/mental ability.
    Although I'm curious as to where there's any rental units in Toronto that are for "Catholics only".

  6. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:07 pm
    "QBall" said
    If buddy isn't a member of that faith/group why would he want to live there?


    Okay fine. Then why do Muslims want to force their way into countries like Slovakia, Iceland, Romania, Poland, and etc.?

  7. by avatar PublicAnimalNo9
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:27 pm
    "QBall" said
    I can see why many residences want to cater only to certain groups as many seniors want to be surrounded by that which makes them comfortable, including being surrounded by members of their own ethnicity/faith. This also means that that particular residence is going to arrange activities/daily routines based on that particular culture/faith (i.e. Muslim residences arranging the day around prayer time) . If buddy isn't a member of that faith/group why would he want to live there? Because the rent is cheap? Maybe he needs to look at the big picture instead of trying to get his 15 minutes.

    He was on a waiting list for a subsidized unit to open up in the building. While he was waiting some Muslim company bought the building and said, "No non-Muslims allowed". Now he's stuck waiting longer because some Muslim losers think they should be allowed to pretend they're back in the shithole countries they fled while enjoying the benefits of a free society that they completely disrespect at the same time.
    Funny how you can't say, "No Natives" with out being crapped on by the same leftist douchebags who pretend that what's happening in this case isn't overt bigotry.
    Meanwhile the Ontario Human Rights Commission, who basically wrote the anti-discrimination laws into the rental properties act, refuse to do anything about it unless a formal complaint complete with legal representation is received. So despite making the laws, the OHRC feels zero obligation to actually enforce them.

  8. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:00 pm
    There was a news article just the other day about Prince Albert, where some dumbass advertised a rental property on Kijiji, but stated no aboriginals, no stay at home moms and those on social assistance need not apply. :?

  9. by avatar BeaverFever
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:04 pm
    "PublicAnimalNo9" said
    Hmm...

    I wonder why they didn't do a story on the Chinese, German, Hungarian, Lithuanian, Catholic, etc. etc. groups that only provide subsidized housing to people from their own communities?

    Also, I notice that CTV coincidentally did a story on the same day but a Toronto Woman denied there, so it feels like someone is conducting a media campaign.

    A man puts up a sign that says "Chinese only"

    Another puts up a sign that says "Catholics only"

    Another puts up a sign that says "Lithuanians only"

    Another puts up a sign that says "Muslims only".

    Headline: "Muslims denying access to non-Muslims!!!!!!"
    of which is illegal. You cannot deny a person a place to live based on race, ethnicity, religion or physical/mental ability.
    Although I'm curious as to where there's any rental units in Toronto that are for "Catholics only".


    Apparently it's legal for charities.

    Here is a list of non-profit housing providers in the City of Toronto alone that specifically cater to certain religions or ethnicities, or other demographics (e.g. veterans). Deleted are the ones whose only exclusivity is for the disabled or elderly since those are different types of housing altogether (but if they only accept ethnic elderly, I left them on the list).

    Whether or not any of the below will tolerate outsiders is hard to tell, since most understandably don't want to advertise that fact but you'll see that a few specifically state that they're only for Greeks or Hungarians, etc.

    And this is form the official City o:f Toronto website

    https://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/cont ... d60f89RCRD

    Church of Atonement
    416-259-5748
    256 Sheldon Ave
    [email protected]

    Humbervale Christian Outreach Foundation Inc.
    416-242-7044
    1447 Royal York Rd
    [email protected]

    Our Saviour Thistletown Lutheran Lodge
    416-744-2144
    2715 Islington Ave
    [email protected]

    Rexdale Presbyterian Senior Citizens Corp.
    Hwy Terraces Apartments
    416-745-2891
    2314 Islington Ave
    [email protected]

    Richview Baptist Foundation
    416-247-5316
    1540 Kipling Ave
    richviewresidence.ca
    [email protected]

    St. Demetrius Development Corp.
    416-243-9051
    60 Richview Rd
    stdemetrius.ca
    [email protected]

    St. Hilda�s Towers
    416-256-6531
    2339 Dufferin St
    sthildastowers.com
    [email protected]

    B�nai B�rith Canada
    Senior Citizens Residential Program
    416-633-6224
    15 Hove St
    bnaibrith.ca
    [email protected]

    Canadian Legion Toronto Homes
    416-222-9945
    4-4715 Bathurst St
    � For allied veterans, members of the Royal Canadian Legion or the Ladies� Auxiliary

    Casa Abruzzo Benevolent Corp.
    416-789-7654
    338 Falstaff Ave
    villacharities.com
    [email protected]
    (Italian)

    Emmanuel Lutheran Manor
    416-750-2227
    1684 Victoria Park Ave
    [email protected]

    Italian Canadian Benevolent Seniors Apartment Corp.
    416-789-7011
    901 Lawrence Ave W
    villacharities.com
    [email protected]


    Upper Canada Lodge B�nai B�rith Seniors
    416-664-5178
    4810 Dufferin St Ste E
    bnaibrith.ca
    [email protected]

    Wigwamen Terrace
    416-481-4451
    23 Lesmill Rd Unit 106
    wigwamen.com
    [email protected]
    � 59+ and of Aboriginal ancestry

    Estonian Relief Committee in Canada
    416-284-0813
    40 Old Kingston Rd
    ehatare.ca
    [email protected]
    � No RGI subsidy available for inter Faith Homes


    St. David�s Village Corp.
    416-267-2737
    1290 Danforth Rd
    [email protected]
    � 59+ for RGI; 60+ for market rentals

    St. Paul�s L�amoreaux Centre
    416-493-3333
    3333 Finch Ave E
    [email protected]

    Sts. Peter and Paul Ukrainian Community Homes
    416-291-3900
    221 Milner Ave
    stspeterandpaulresidence.com
    [email protected]

    Wilmar Heights United Church Non-Profit Homes
    416-759-7269
    967 Pharmacy Ave
    wilmarcourt.com
    [email protected]

    Yee Hong Chinese Evergreen Homes Metro Toronto Corp.
    416-298-0688
    2319 McNicoll Ave
    [email protected]

    Canadian Macedonian Senior Citizen�s Centre
    416-755-9231
    850 O�Connor Dr
    zcokov@
    canadianmacedonianplace.
    com
    � 55+ and of Macedonian origin

    Canadian Martyrs Seniors Residence
    416-424-1366
    1155 Yonge St
    [email protected]


    Habayit Shelanu Seniors Residence Corp.
    416-515-1015
    155 Kendal Ave
    dmsproperty.com
    [email protected]

    Hellenic Home for the Aged Inc.
    416-654-8619
    33 Winona Dr
    http://www.hellenichome.org
    [email protected]
    � 59+ and of Greek origin

    Les Centres D�Accueil Heritage
    416-365-3350
    104-33 Hahn Pl
    caheritage.org
    [email protected]
    � Some units are reserved for French-speaking 59+


    St. Anne�s Place
    416-979-1994
    15 Toronto St 9th Fl
    loftcs.org
    [email protected]


    McClintock Manor
    416-469-1105
    730 Pape Ave
    nisbetlodge.com
    [email protected]
    � 59+ and Christian

    Rakoczi Villa
    416-413-1300
    80 Carlton St
    aykler.com
    [email protected]
    � 59+ and of Hungarian origin

    Riverdale United Non-Profit Homes Inc.
    416-664-5168
    1117 Gerrard St E
    [email protected]


    St. Joseph�s Senior Citizen Apartments
    905-985-4322
    67 Curzon St
    [email protected]

    St. Matthew�s Bracondale House
    416-656-2669
    707 St. Clair Ave W
    smbh.ca
    [email protected]
    � 59+ for RGI, 65+ for market rentals

    Thorncliffe Chapel Housing Corp.
    416-423-4057
    18 Thorncliffe Park Dr
    [email protected]
    � Has units reserved for those 59+


    Lithuanian Senior Citizens Inc.
    416-762-1777
    1700 Bloor St W
    [email protected]

  10. by avatar DanSC
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:35 pm
    I assume this isn't publicly subsidized housing?

  11. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:38 pm
    Interestingly enough despite these refusals being unconstitutional there have actually been court cases that allow discrimination, especially in the age and no children categories.

    But, for the life of me I can't recall any court cases that allow Muslim only subsidized housing. So, the Supreme Court should clarify their methodology for granting special dispensation for some Charter Challenges on the subject while denying it for others.

  12. by avatar andyt
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:51 pm
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    Interestingly enough despite these refusals being unconstitutional there have actually been court cases that allow discrimination, especially in the age and no children categories.

    But, for the life of me I can't recall any court cases that allow Muslim only subsidized housing. So, the Supreme Court should clarify their methodology for granting special dispensation for some Charter Challenges on the subject while denying it for others.



    Gosgnach said the same provision allows other groups to do the same �including seniors, artists, aboriginal, homeless/hard-to-house, individuals with AIDS and ethnic and religious groups including Christian and individuals of Lithuanian, Macedonian, Greek, Chinese, Hungarian and German origin.�


    Since most of these groups will have been in operation a lot longer than this Muslim home, why not launch a charter challenge on the Christian homes, say, or aboriginals. My guess is the complainant would get their ass handed to them by the SCC.

    I guess the Muslims are doing us a favor by highlighting all the discrimination we've allowed in our country, about which nobody says boo until the Muslim want it too, when all of a sudden it's an outrage, I tell, and outrage. We had Jewish civil courts operating for years, nobody said anything, (how can you say anything against the Jews), but when the Muslims asked for the same thing, all of a sudden it was an outrage. The Jewish courts should not have been allowed in the first place.

  13. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:29 pm
    "BeaverFever" said

    Apparently it's legal for charities.

    Here is a list of non-profit housing providers in the City of Toronto alone that specifically cater to certain religions or ethnicities, or other demographics (e.g. veterans). Deleted are the ones whose only exclusivity is for the disabled or elderly since those are different types of housing altogether (but if they only accept ethnic elderly, I left them on the list).

    Whether or not any of the below will tolerate outsiders is hard to tell, since most understandably don't want to advertise that fact but you'll see that a few specifically state that they're only for Greeks or Hungarians, etc.


    So I started going down the list.

    They're sponsored by organizations.

    The first one I checked was sponsored by the United Church. Now you're going to have to try real hard to convince me they're going to be selective in who they allow in. They're Progressives. I know this because it's why I left that church. There's nothing on any of the sites saying you have to be any particular religion, culture or ethnicity to get a room at their retirement village.

    I checked another one that was sponsored by Ukrainian Orthodox. There was nothing there saying only Ukrainians allowed, but they were bragging about the multicultural area they were in.

    So then I came across B'nai Brith.

    Jews right? If the Jews are open to multicultural residency in their retirement village we're done.

    B�nai Brith Canada, while corporately distinct, is part of B�nai B�rith International, which is the largest Jewish sponsor of federally subsidized housing for the elderly in the United States. For more than 30 years, in a cooperative partnership with the Department of Housing and Urban Development, B�nai B�rith has made rental apartments available for senior citizens with limited incomes. B�nai B�rith senior housing is open to all qualified individuals as defined by HUD, without regard to race, color, religion, sex, handicap, or national origin.


    http://lionsgatebnaibrithbuildingsociet ... g-network/



    Try again. :wink:

  14. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:01 pm
    As to Gosgnach's claim that the Ontario Human Rights Commision allows the sponsors to be bigoted in who they rent to at the centres or complexes the city subsidizes -

    Check it out.

    http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/book/export/html/2491



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