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Rising carbon emissions from oilsands a 'unique

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Rising carbon emissions from oilsands a 'unique' challenge, federal cabinet told


Environmental | 206925 hits | May 20 8:30 am | Posted by: andyt
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Greenhouse gas emissions from increasing oilsands production will rise faster than Canada's ability to curb them, the federal government was warned before new emissions reductions targets were announced last week, according to documents obtained by CBC Ne

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  1. by avatar andyt
    Wed May 20, 2015 3:33 pm
    If Canada has to buy foreign ghg credits to offset the oilsands, who pays for that?

  2. by avatar 2Cdo
    Wed May 20, 2015 3:51 pm
    "andyt" said
    If Canada has to buy foreign ghg credits to offset the oilsands, who pays for that?

    Green house gas credits is a fucking shell game that does nothing about emissions but does transfer money. I can see why Andy thinks it's a good plan. :lol:

  3. by Thanos
    Wed May 20, 2015 4:09 pm
    Maybe the panic will be good for the pipeline biz if it causes all the carbon-sequestration projects to be started up again. Gonna need lots of lines to start shoving the shit back down the holes in the ground it originally came out of. If government make-work projects from the Alberta Dippers are what it takes to save my moribund career then I'm all for it. Go socialism! :mrgreen:

  4. by avatar 2Cdo
    Wed May 20, 2015 5:47 pm
    "Thanos" said
    Maybe the panic will be good for the pipeline biz if it causes all the carbon-sequestration projects to be started up again. Gonna need lots of lines to start shoving the shit back down the holes in the ground it originally came out of. If government make-work projects from the Alberta Dippers are what it takes to save my moribund career then I'm all for it. Go socialism! :mrgreen:


    I got a call a few days ago from a smaller company wanting to hire me in early June. They are actually busy so I might cut my holiday off, 2.5 months is enough. Hopefully I'll be back to work contributing to Canadas emissions, pissing off loons like andy!

  5. by Lemmy
    Wed May 20, 2015 5:55 pm
    "2Cdo" said
    Green house gas credits is a fucking shell game that does nothing about emissions but does transfer money. I can see why Andy thinks it's a good plan. :lol:

    There's an enormous body of environmental economics research that says you're wrong. There are fair criticisms of cap and trade systems but you're outright dismissal is ignorant.

  6. by avatar 2Cdo
    Wed May 20, 2015 5:58 pm
    "Lemmy" said
    Green house gas credits is a fucking shell game that does nothing about emissions but does transfer money. I can see why Andy thinks it's a good plan. :lol:

    There's an enormous body of environmental economics research that says you're wrong. There are fair criticisms of cap and trade systems but you're outright dismissal is ignorant.

    Moving money from one country/organization to another just makes someone money. Companies/organizations with deep pockets will just call this a cost of doing business and pass on the cost, all while not decreasing emissions one bit. I see it quite a bit where I work.

    My outright dismissal is far from ignorant. :roll:

  7. by Lemmy
    Wed May 20, 2015 6:01 pm
    "2Cdo" said
    Moving money from one country/organization to another just makes someone money. Companies/organizations with deep pockets will just call this a cost of doing business and pass on the cost, all while not decreasing emissions one bit. I see it quite a bit where I work.

    My outright dismissal is far from ignorant. :roll:

    You need to take an environmental economics course before you comment, because you are speaking from a position of ignorance. No offence, but you simply don't know what you're talking about.

  8. by avatar 2Cdo
    Wed May 20, 2015 6:02 pm
    "Lemmy" said
    Moving money from one country/organization to another just makes someone money. Companies/organizations with deep pockets will just call this a cost of doing business and pass on the cost, all while not decreasing emissions one bit. I see it quite a bit where I work.

    My outright dismissal is far from ignorant. :roll:

    You need to take an environmental economics course before you comment, because you are speaking from a position of ignorance. No offence, but you simply don't know what you're talking about.

    Yeah, real world experience trumped by a course. :lol: :lol: :lol:

  9. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Wed May 20, 2015 6:03 pm
    calling someone ignorant while failing to differentiate between a possessive form and a contraction.....hmmmmm :lol:

  10. by avatar 2Cdo
    Wed May 20, 2015 6:03 pm
    "Lemmy" said
    No offence, but you simply don't know what you're talking about.


    You should heed your own advice.

  11. by Thanos
    Wed May 20, 2015 6:04 pm
    "2Cdo" said
    Maybe the panic will be good for the pipeline biz if it causes all the carbon-sequestration projects to be started up again. Gonna need lots of lines to start shoving the shit back down the holes in the ground it originally came out of. If government make-work projects from the Alberta Dippers are what it takes to save my moribund career then I'm all for it. Go socialism! :mrgreen:


    I got a call a few days ago from a smaller company wanting to hire me in early June. They are actually busy so I might cut my holiday off, 2.5 months is enough. Hopefully I'll be back to work contributing to Canadas emissions, pissing off loons like andy!

    All too little and too late to help me out. My part in the game is pretty much over.

  12. by Lemmy
    Wed May 20, 2015 6:08 pm
    "2Cdo" said
    Yeah, real world experience trumped by a course. :lol: :lol: :lol:

    No, there are plenty of real world case examples where emissions trading has worked. CFCs, the Fox River pollution in Wisconsin, to name two off the top of my head. Generally speaking, they work well when they're set up properly. So to dismiss them out of hand, as you have, displays ignorance of the numerous examples, real world examples, where the schemes have worked effectively.

  13. by Lemmy
    Wed May 20, 2015 6:14 pm
    "ShepherdsDog" said
    calling someone ignorant while failing to differentiate between a possessive form and a contraction.....hmmmmm :lol:

    Grammar cops should be careful to capitalize the first letter of their sentences. :lol:

  14. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Wed May 20, 2015 6:42 pm
    Since when do Frasers care about etiquette



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