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Canada's War on Science Brings Us International

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Science | 206949 hits | Sep 08 11:09 am | Posted by: DrCaleb
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Canada's so-called "War on Science" has made international headlines, especially after deep funding cuts led to the closure of some of Canada's most important research centres. A push to prioritize economic gains over basic research is endangering science

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  1. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:40 pm
    Well gee, if a blog at the Huffington post says so, it must be true.

  2. by avatar DrCaleb
    Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:45 pm
    "N_Fiddledog" said
    Well gee, if a blog at the Huffington post says so, it must be true.


    Ohhh! Very quick to pull your usual "blame the messenger" modus operandi! Faster than usual!

    Or you could have read the study that they linked to, for the original data . . .

  3. by Goober911
    Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:04 pm
    The control, nah never would happen with this Canada's New Government. Must be Bullshit.
    But......
    http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/britis ... /1.2759300

    A request from The Canadian Press to speak to federal government scientist Max Bothwell for an article about his research expertise failed to produce an interview.

    What it did produce was 110 pages of emails to and from 16 different federal government communications operatives, according to documents obtained using access to information legislation.

    The Canadian Press story, which was eventually published without the interview, was about rock snot. If there's a person you want to talk to about the pervasive algae also known by the less-offensive, more scientific name of Didymo, it's Fisheries and Oceans Canada scientist Max Bothwell.

    Bothwell is, other scientists will tell you, the rock snot man. He wrote the book. Or in this case, co-authored a published article in a renowned scientific journal.

  4. by avatar DrCaleb
    Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:07 pm
    "Goober911" said
    The control, nah never would happen with this Canada's New Government. Must be Bullshit.
    But......
    http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/britis ... /1.2759300

    A request from The Canadian Press to speak to federal government scientist Max Bothwell for an article about his research expertise failed to produce an interview.

    What it did produce was 110 pages of emails to and from 16 different federal government communications operatives, according to documents obtained using access to information legislation.

    The Canadian Press story, which was eventually published without the interview, was about rock snot. If there's a person you want to talk to about the pervasive algae also known by the less-offensive, more scientific name of Didymo, it's Fisheries and Oceans Canada scientist Max Bothwell.

    Bothwell is, other scientists will tell you, the rock snot man. He wrote the book. Or in this case, co-authored a published article in a renowned scientific journal.


    Another low point. Avoiding a topic because the answers are uncomfortable.

    http://www.canadaka.net/link.php?id=86071

  5. by Goober911
    Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:15 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    The control, nah never would happen with this Canada's New Government. Must be Bullshit.
    But......
    http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/britis ... /1.2759300

    A request from The Canadian Press to speak to federal government scientist Max Bothwell for an article about his research expertise failed to produce an interview.

    What it did produce was 110 pages of emails to and from 16 different federal government communications operatives, according to documents obtained using access to information legislation.

    The Canadian Press story, which was eventually published without the interview, was about rock snot. If there's a person you want to talk to about the pervasive algae also known by the less-offensive, more scientific name of Didymo, it's Fisheries and Oceans Canada scientist Max Bothwell.

    Bothwell is, other scientists will tell you, the rock snot man. He wrote the book. Or in this case, co-authored a published article in a renowned scientific journal.


    Another low point. Avoiding a topic because the answers are uncomfortable.

    http://www.canadaka.net/link.php?id=86071
    Trudeau is also of the control freak mode.
    Well the fun begins shortly.
    Parliament sits on 5 Sept and The Puffsters trial starts on the 16th.
    Now Harper can be called as a witness, but can delay that while Parliament is sitting. Gonna be a fun time on the Hill this fall. Yesirree.

  6. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:59 pm
    Trudeau is also of the control freak mode.

    He gets it from his old man.

  7. by avatar Xort
    Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:15 am
    So something written on the big blow is critical of a conservative government. One fair enough, nothing like some bias to spice up the debate.

    Who was the author? An environmentalist with an axe to grind against humanity.

    Why am I not surprised?

  8. by avatar DrCaleb
    Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:41 pm
    "Xort" said
    Who was the author? An environmentalist with an axe to grind against humanity.

    Why am I not surprised?


    Because you didn't read the article, instead using your own biases to make up the content of the article based on the headline? When you make things up yourself, I doubt you could be surprised at the outcome. The author was the "French National Trade Union of Scientific Researchers" like the article says. Did you read the first paragraph?

    But, just keep taking your ad hominem lessons from N_F. I'm sure they will take you far!

  9. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:31 pm
    "DrCaleb" said

    But, just keep taking your ad hominem lessons from N_F. I'm sure they will take you far!


    Why are you always using ad hominem to accuse me of ad hominem? Right back at ya then - it's that's kind of irrational nonsense that creates polls where global warming is the least important issue on the majority of the populations' list of things they care about. Fewer people are taking opinions like those of Huffington Post watermelon (green on the outside, red on the inside) warmist bloggers seriously.

    Blogger opinion from the blogs section of a site known for its bias is not credible as news. That's fair comment.

  10. by avatar DrCaleb
    Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:11 pm
    "N_Fiddledog" said

    But, just keep taking your ad hominem lessons from N_F. I'm sure they will take you far!


    Why are you always using ad hominem to accuse me of ad hominem?

    Because the first thing you do with something you disagree with is:

    "N_Fiddledog" said
    Well gee, if a blog at the Huffington post says so, it must be true.


    If the shoe fits . . .and I haven't used an Ad Hominem. I simply point to your use of them as a logical fallacy to avoid discussing the issue.

    "N_Fiddledog" said

    Right back at ya then - it's that's kind of irrational nonsense that creates polls where global warming is the least important issue on the majority of the populations' list of things they care about. Fewer people are taking opinions like those of Huffington Post watermelon (green on the outside, red on the inside) warmist bloggers seriously.


    No one said anything about Global Warming. That's something your own bias invented. The subject is how Canada's (and all the other listed countries) under funding Science will come back to bite us in the ass. But people who read the article, or the study linked in it before commenting, already knew that.

    "N_Fiddledog" said

    Blogger opinion from the blogs section of a site known for its bias is not credible as news. That's fair comment.


    Said the guy who used a Briebart opinion column as a story just yesterday. :roll: And, we've been over this before too. A staff reporter who translates a scientific study into common language (from the original French) isn't a 'blogger'. And it is credible news. Ad Hominem #2.

    Any other Ad Hominems to share?

  11. by avatar bootlegga
    Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:12 pm
    "DrCaleb" said

    But, just keep taking your ad hominem lessons from N_F. I'm sure they will take you far!


    Why are you always using ad hominem to accuse me of ad hominem?

    Because the first thing you do with something you disagree with is:

    "N_Fiddledog" said
    Well gee, if a blog at the Huffington post says so, it must be true.


    If the shoe fits . . .and I haven't used an Ad Hominem. I simply point to your use of them as a logical fallacy to avoid discussing the issue.

    "N_Fiddledog" said

    Right back at ya then - it's that's kind of irrational nonsense that creates polls where global warming is the least important issue on the majority of the populations' list of things they care about. Fewer people are taking opinions like those of Huffington Post watermelon (green on the outside, red on the inside) warmist bloggers seriously.


    No one said anything about Global Warming. That's something your own bias invented. The subject is how Canada's (and all the other listed countries) under funding Science will come back to bite us in the ass. But people who read the article, or the study linked in it before commenting, already knew that.

    "N_Fiddledog" said

    Blogger opinion from the blogs section of a site known for its bias is not credible as news. That's fair comment.


    Said the guy who used a Briebart opinion column as a story just yesterday. :roll: And, we've been over this before too. A staff reporter who translates a scientific study into common language (from the original French) isn't a 'blogger'. And it is credible news. Ad Hominem #2.

    Any other Ad Hominems to share?

    R=UP I'd rep if I could.

  12. by Anonymous
    Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:19 pm
    "Scientist" never fudge papers....NEVER! They have NOTHING to gain!

    XD XD XD

    http://retractionwatch.com/

    Oh look ! Hot of the presses!

    http://retractionwatch.com/2014/09/02/d ... tractions/

  13. by avatar DrCaleb
    Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:20 pm
    No one was talking about Diabetes either.

  14. by Anonymous
    Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:22 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    No one was talking about Diabetes either.



    Click the other link and pick a topic.



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