I think in the end that's what is done with medical waste in most places, be it at the hospital or special facility. Here I've seen early a second trimester miscarriage flushed in the toilet. I suppose the family could request something else and pay for it though. I know 25+ years ago burning medical waste at hospitals was common and would include everything that would have been removed from the patient.
So, kill it because I don't want it, but then cry because what you just killed wasn't treated with "respect?" What should they do, hold a funeral? Seems hypocritical to me to go in and ask that your foetus be killed, doesn't seem like "treating the body with respect" but then expect the hospital to make a fuss about it. It was cremated, same as many other dead bodies. Guess the hospital should have offered to let the woman keep the ashes afterward.
"andyt" said It was cremated, same as many other dead bodies. Guess the hospital should have offered to let the woman keep the ashes afterward.
You really need to read the article before posting.
The hospitals didn't do any consultation about afterwards, probably because most normal people would be sickened by this. I guess it's too difficult to show the tiniest bit of respect.
And old people who die get cremated individually. At least I hope they do, not thrown together with a couple of other people, and some dirty bandages.
I did read the article. As I say, it seems hypocritical to me to go in and ask that your foetus be killed, but then want it treated with respect afterward.
exactly. The headline makes it sound like there's some demented stoker in the basement shovelling the furnace full of babies, muttering "hotter, hotter, got to make it hotter."
My previous post got accidentally deleted.( I'm blaming it on the drugs! )
The parents are given exactly the same choice on the disposal of foetal remains as for a stillborn child and their personal wishes are respected,� they added.
Most hospitals and medical fascilities employ the use of incinerators as a neccesity. This is the most effective way to destroy disease causing bacteria. The fact that the medical waste generates useable heat is a secondary byproduct of a necessary practice.
"andyt" said I did read the article. As I say, it seems hypocritical to me to go in and ask that your foetus be killed, but then want it treated with respect afterward.
And what about the 1 in 7 who naturally miscarry ?
Read what Yogi wrote. Most miscarriages are during the first trimester. You really want to have a funeral for a bunch of cells? And again, the parents were given the option of what to do.
"martin14" said I did read the article. As I say, it seems hypocritical to me to go in and ask that your foetus be killed, but then want it treated with respect afterward.
And what about the 1 in 7 who naturally miscarry ? I miscarried in the toilet. What was I supposed to do, bury my 6 weeks old fetus? For as far as I know, in The Netherlands, you are required to bury a still born that was born after 25 weeks of gestation. Before that, you can do with it whatever you want. Usually, when you miscarry that late, you miscarry in a hospital, and they either 'throw it out' as medical waste or you can take it and bury it. First trimester miscarriages (which are most...) usually do not get buried.
Would you like to bury your appendix too, when taken out or do you not have an issue heating the hospital with that?
"andyt" said Read what Yogi wrote. Most miscarriages are during the first trimester. You really want to have a funeral for a bunch of cells? And again, the parents were given the option of what to do.
No, they weren't. Holy fuck you are retarded.
Last night the Department of Health issued an instant ban on the practice which health minister Dr Dan Poulter branded �totally unacceptable.�
At least 15,500 foetal remains were incinerated by 27 NHS trusts over the last two years alone, Channel 4�s Dispatches discovered.
The programme, which will air tonight, found that parents who lose children in early pregnancy were often treated without compassion and were not consulted about what they wanted to happen to the remains.
One of the country�s leading hospitals, Addenbrooke�s in Cambridge, incinerated 797 babies below 13 weeks gestation at their own �waste to energy� plant. The mothers were told the remains had been �cremated.�
Another �waste to energy� facility at Ipswich Hospital, operated by a private contractor, incinerated 1,101 foetal remains between 2011 and 2013.
They were brought in from another hospital before being burned, generating energy for the hospital site. Ipswich Hospital itself disposes of remains by cremation.
�This practice is totally unacceptable,� said Dr Poulter.
�While the vast majority of hospitals are acting in the appropriate way, that must be the case for all hospitals and the Human Tissue Authority has now been asked to ensure that it acts on this issue without delay.�
Sir Bruce Keogh, NHS Medical Director, has written to all NHS trusts to tell them the practice must stop.
So why is everyone scurrying like rats trying to close it down now that it has been exposed ?
Oh and FWIW, being cremated with some human respect and being tossed thrown into the fire to be used for heat is not the same fucking thing, and you know it.
Ipswich Hospital Trust said it was concerned to discover that foetal remains from another hospital had been incinerated on its site.
A spokeswoman said: �The Ipswich Hospital NHS Trust does not incinerate foetal remains.�
She added that the trust �takes great care over foetal remains�
Brilliant CYA. We don't do it, and only now are we concerned since we found out someone using our incinerator is doing it.
Filters... The waste plant where I used to live didn't smell at all. The only thing coming out of incinerators is water vapour. It is a very clean way of waste disposal.
Turns out hitting a new low, like only the UK can.
It was cremated, same as many other dead bodies. Guess the hospital should have offered to let the woman keep the ashes afterward.
You really need to read the article before posting.
The hospitals didn't do any consultation about afterwards, probably because most normal people would be sickened by this. I guess it's too difficult to show the
tiniest bit of respect.
And old people who die get cremated individually. At least I hope they do, not thrown together with a couple of other people, and some dirty bandages.
I can assure you Marty that crematoriums are 'single use size'.
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The parents are given exactly the same choice on the disposal of foetal remains as for a stillborn child and their personal wishes are respected,� they added.
Most hospitals and medical fascilities employ the use of incinerators as a neccesity. This is the most effective way to destroy disease causing bacteria. The fact that the medical waste generates useable heat is a secondary byproduct of a necessary practice.
I did read the article. As I say, it seems hypocritical to me to go in and ask that your foetus be killed, but then want it treated with respect afterward.
And what about the 1 in 7 who naturally miscarry ?
I did read the article. As I say, it seems hypocritical to me to go in and ask that your foetus be killed, but then want it treated with respect afterward.
And what about the 1 in 7 who naturally miscarry ?
I miscarried in the toilet. What was I supposed to do, bury my 6 weeks old fetus?
For as far as I know, in The Netherlands, you are required to bury a still born that was born after 25 weeks of gestation.
Before that, you can do with it whatever you want. Usually, when you miscarry that late, you miscarry in a hospital, and they either 'throw it out' as medical waste or you can take it and bury it. First trimester miscarriages (which are most...) usually do not get buried.
Would you like to bury your appendix too, when taken out or do you not have an issue heating the hospital with that?
Read what Yogi wrote. Most miscarriages are during the first trimester. You really want to have a funeral for a bunch of cells? And again, the parents were given the option of what to do.
No, they weren't. Holy fuck you are retarded.
Last night the Department of Health issued an instant ban on the practice which health minister Dr Dan Poulter branded �totally unacceptable.�
At least 15,500 foetal remains were incinerated by 27 NHS trusts over the last two years alone, Channel 4�s Dispatches discovered.
The programme, which will air tonight, found that parents who lose children in early pregnancy were often treated without compassion and were not consulted about what they wanted to happen to the remains.
One of the country�s leading hospitals, Addenbrooke�s in Cambridge, incinerated 797 babies below 13 weeks gestation at their own �waste to energy� plant. The mothers were told the remains had been �cremated.�
Another �waste to energy� facility at Ipswich Hospital, operated by a private contractor, incinerated 1,101 foetal remains between 2011 and 2013.
They were brought in from another hospital before being burned, generating energy for the hospital site. Ipswich Hospital itself disposes of remains by cremation.
�This practice is totally unacceptable,� said Dr Poulter.
�While the vast majority of hospitals are acting in the appropriate way, that must be the case for all hospitals and the Human Tissue Authority has now been asked to ensure that it acts on this issue without delay.�
Sir Bruce Keogh, NHS Medical Director, has written to all NHS trusts to tell them the practice must stop.
So why is everyone scurrying like rats trying to close it down now that it has
been exposed ?
Oh and FWIW, being cremated with some human respect and being tossed thrown into the fire to be used for heat is not the same fucking thing, and you know it.
Ipswich Hospital Trust said it was concerned to discover that foetal remains from another hospital had been incinerated on its site.
A spokeswoman said: �The Ipswich Hospital NHS Trust does not incinerate foetal remains.�
She added that the trust �takes great care over foetal remains�
Brilliant CYA. We don't do it, and only now are we concerned since we found out someone using our incinerator is doing it.
The waste plant where I used to live didn't smell at all. The only thing coming out of incinerators is water vapour. It is a very clean way of waste disposal.