 Ottawa was warned about Arctic patrol ships' high price Two days before signing a contract to begin work on a $3-billion shipbuilding project, the federal government was warned by its own advisers that the contract was overpriced � but signed it anyway.Commentsview comments in forum Page 1 You need to be a member of CKA and be logged into the site, to comment on news. |
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Now, as far as the 'A bit like the Three Stooges buying a car' sound bite from whatz-her-name, the Liberal defence critic, I can't imagine what qualifies her to be a defence critic but she read that "Three Stooges" quip like the script that it was. Clever. Not. You can be sure, however, that if her ilk managed by some miracle to get back into power next election, that project would be cancelled immediately with half-built hulls headed for the breakers. We'd be out billions and our grand children will be patrolling the Northwest Passage in Zodiacs.
Imagine, an over-priced government project! Just producing warships in Canada probably doubles the price, right off the bat. What we get out it that is the expertise to do work like this ... not that we take advantage of it afterwards, and some semblance of a home-grown high-tech sector (warships are complex systems. The padded budget smells like largesse to Atlantic Canada ... a goody from former Defence Minister McKay. That sort of thing is an old Canadian tradition, don't you know?
Now, as far as the 'A bit like the Three Stooges buying a car' sound bite from whatz-her-name, the Liberal defence critic, I can't imagine what qualifies her to be a defence critic but she read that "Three Stooges" quip like the script that it was. Clever. Not. You can be sure, however, that if her ilk managed by some miracle to get back into power next election, that project would be cancelled immediately with half-built hulls headed for the breakers. We'd be out billions and our grand children will be patrolling the Northwest Passage in Zodiacs.
While I agree that the Liberals have been pretty bad for the military since the late 60s, the fact is they built the two existing heavy icebreakers (and many of the medium ones too), while the Conservatives (Progressive and current) haven't built any.
So, in this instance, it's actually the other way around - the Conservatives HAVE us patrolling in zodiacs and the Liberals actually built something, even if it was less than was needed.
While I agree that the Liberals have been pretty bad for the military since the late 60s, the fact is they built the two existing heavy icebreakers (and many of the medium ones too), while the Conservatives (Progressive and current) haven't built any.
Heavy Icebreaker CCGS Terry Fox (one of the two heavy icebreakers) was acquired in 1992, at the tail end of eight years of PC government. How do the Liberals get the credit for that? Jean Chretien did a quantum leap into Brian Mulroney's body or what?
While I agree that the Liberals have been pretty bad for the military since the late 60s, the fact is they built the two existing heavy icebreakers (and many of the medium ones too), while the Conservatives (Progressive and current) haven't built any.
Heavy Icebreaker CCGS Terry Fox (one of the two heavy icebreakers) was acquired in 1992, at the tail end of eight years of PC government. How do the Liberals get the credit for that? Jean Chretien did a quantum leap into Brian Mulroney's body or what?
My mistake, I simply looked at the year it was built (1983), not the year it entered service with the CCG.
Heavy Icebreaker CCGS Terry Fox (one of the two heavy icebreakers) was acquired in 1992, at the tail end of eight years of PC government. How do the Liberals get the credit for that? Jean Chretien did a quantum leap into Brian Mulroney's body or what?
We were promised "Polar 8s" and we got a couple of "Polar 4s", instead.
Heavy Icebreaker CCGS Terry Fox (one of the two heavy icebreakers) was acquired in 1992, at the tail end of eight years of PC government. How do the Liberals get the credit for that? Jean Chretien did a quantum leap into Brian Mulroney's body or what?
We were promised "Polar 8s" and we got a couple of "Polar 4s", instead.
Mulroney promised alot of things he didn't deliver on.
Mulroney promised alot of things he didn't deliver on.
I'm still waiting for my bag of un-marked bills!
Only country with more icebreakers (by far) is Russia, with a fleet of six nuclear powered ships plus numerous diesels . The Americans only have one Polar class icebreaker left (Polar Star) and one medium (Healy).
We have two heavy and four medium. Not a bad fleet. When the Dief is built it will be the most powerful diesel powered icebreaker in the world, comparable to the Russian nukes. Or so I read.
According to the climate doom sayers, in a few years there will be no need for icebreakers, so why bother.
they were right big monsters like the Dief would be a poor investment indeed.
According to the climate doom sayers, in a few years there will be no need for icebreakers, so why bother.
It sounds like you're being facetious, but just because the NW Passage might be ice free in a decade or so, it doesn't mean ALL the Arctic ice will be gone. I haven't seen any predictions that it will be all gone anytime soon. Some of the really old ice near the Pole is metres thick and only heavy icebreakers can cut through that stuff.
It sounds like you're being facetious, but just because the NW Passage might be ice free in a decade or so, it doesn't mean ALL the Arctic ice will be gone. I haven't seen any predictions that it will be all gone anytime soon. Some of the really old ice near the Pole is metres thick and only heavy icebreakers can cut through that stuff.
It won't be clear of ice year around, probably, any more than the Gulf of St. Lawrence is now.
According to the climate doom sayers, in a few years there will be no need for icebreakers, so why bother.
It sounds like you're being facetious, but just because the NW Passage might be ice free in a decade or so, it doesn't mean ALL the Arctic ice will be gone. I haven't seen any predictions that it will be all gone anytime soon. Some of the really old ice near the Pole is metres thick and only heavy icebreakers can cut through that stuff.
Yes I was.
Only six years ago, the BBC reported that the Arctic would be ice-free in summer by 2013, citing a scientist in the US who claimed this was a �conservative� forecast. Perhaps it was their confidence that led more than 20 yachts to try to sail the Northwest Passage from the Atlantic to the Pacific this summer. As of last week, all these vessels were stuck in the ice, some at the eastern end of the passage in Prince Regent Inlet, others further west at Cape Bathurst.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tions.html
Looks like we're gonna need those icebreakers.