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Geographers seek solution to student ignorance

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Geographers seek solution to student ignorance of the globe


World | 206827 hits | Aug 10 12:49 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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Geographers from across the globe met in St. John's this week to discuss the future of geographic education in Canada after alarm bells went off when some Memorial University students couldn't locate the Atlantic Ocean on a map.

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  1. by avatar martin14
    Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:27 pm
    "I think young people today are dealing with a lot of information, and positioning that information is quite challenging. That is to say that I think perhaps the connections between where things are are not really being dealt with, in a way," he said.


    I think this prof should stop making excuses for the teachers that passed these moronic kids up the line and start a national shaming program for the parents of these little darlings.

  2. by bambu
    Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:52 pm
    If the student hasn't learnt, the teacher hasn't taught.

  3. by avatar Hyack
    Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:03 pm
    "bambu" said
    If the student hasn't learnt, the teacher hasn't taught.


    Bullshit!! You can teach somebody but you can't make them learn. Even the most capable of teachers can only present the facts, they can't make the students learn if they don't want to.

  4. by avatar xerxes
    Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:18 pm
    Exactly. Electric shocks until they learn is my answer.

  5. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:13 am
    Geographers seek solution to student ignorance of the globe

    The solution is simple.

    A Nun with a ruler and a sadistic streak. Worked for me and every other kid I went to school with. :D

  6. by avatar Public_Domain
    Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:41 am
    :|

  7. by bambu
    Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:51 am
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    Geographers seek solution to student ignorance of the globe

    The solution is simple.

    A Nun with a ruler and a sadistic streak. Worked for me and every other kid I went to school with. :D


    Sounds a lot like child abuse to me.

    As well as having capital punishment [such a sanitised word for execution-homiciding human beings]removed from their landscape, bambu-ilk had corporal punishmnet removed [from schools] as well.

    No more ruler/cane-wielding nuns/teachers...all gone. ;)

  8. by bambu
    Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:05 am
    My guess is that the majority of students are not morons and would learn about the globe if taught properly.

    Best students learn about the globe, so mistakes don't get made later on; :)

    Apologies to Americans for the title of the video;


  9. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:48 am
    "bambu" said
    Geographers seek solution to student ignorance of the globe

    The solution is simple.

    A Nun with a ruler and a sadistic streak. Worked for me and every other kid I went to school with. :D


    Sounds a lot like child abuse to me.

    As well as having capital punishment [such a sanitised word for execution-homiciding human beings]removed from their landscape, bambu-ilk had corporal punishmnet removed [from schools] as well.

    No more ruler/cane-wielding nuns/teachers...all gone. ;)


    If you're as old as you say you are you must remember corporal punishment being meted out in all the schools, not just the Catholic ones? :roll:

    As for strict Nun's, it's to bad that they're gone though and no matter whether you like it or not kid's learned a lot more with that system than with the touchy feely, don't stifle my creativity, I'll do what I want crap that they use now.

    The System worked and if you didn't cause trouble you didn't get a ruler up the side of the head. Cause trouble you did. A simple enough philosophy that even the dumbest of kids could figure it out. I wonder if that's why there was a lot less ADHD and Ritalin kids then than today.

  10. by avatar Public_Domain
    Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:55 am
    :|

  11. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:36 am
    "Public_Domain" said
    Also, the whip will never be coming back. It just won't. You can lament the olden days I suppose, but the strap can never return. If education/interest (or rather, compliance/silent apathy) can't be made without smacking children around, there's problems with far more than just teachers, students, and parents.



    Then what do you suggest since the current approach isn't working? Although it may just be me but, IMO kids need discipline and structure two things most of them aren't getting at home or at school.

    So what do we do. Let them skate through school, get a high school diploma and then get turned down for a University because they can't read or write at a level above grade 6? Doing it the way it's being done now we're gonna eventually end up with an extremely small generation of overachievers and a huge generation of "do you want fries with that's"

    Or, do we smarten up and start putting discipline, respect and pride back in the education system and no it doesn't have to be a beating every morning to keep in line but, :D how about respect for your teachers, and maybe a little bit of fear thrown in for good measure.

    Of course for that to work parents would have to become a lot more involved in their children's lives and actually back the teachers with discipline at home. Things which I don't see happening for a majority of families.

    You may make light of the "olden days" but let me tell you if you screwed up in school that was the least of your problems. When you got home you'd get it even worse. So keeping your piehole closed and learning was the lesser of two evils for my generation.

    But you're right about the system being pooched. Most parents out here if they can afford it send their kids to private schools so they get a much better quality education and learn about those things I mentioned above.

    This is happening even more so since the public school system has become a battleground between the union and the Provincial Gov't with the kids as bargaining chips.

  12. by avatar Public_Domain
    Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:05 am
    :|

  13. by bambu
    Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:08 am
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    Geographers seek solution to student ignorance of the globe

    The solution is simple.

    A Nun with a ruler and a sadistic streak. Worked for me and every other kid I went to school with. :D


    Sounds a lot like child abuse to me.

    As well as having capital punishment [such a sanitised word for execution-homiciding human beings]removed from their landscape, bambu-ilk had corporal punishmnet removed [from schools] as well.

    No more ruler/cane-wielding nuns/teachers...all gone. ;)


    If you're as old as you say you are you must remember corporal punishment being meted out in all the schools, not just the Catholic ones? :roll:

    As for strict Nun's, it's to bad that they're gone though and no matter whether you like it or not kid's learned a lot more with that system than with the touchy feely, don't stifle my creativity, I'll do what I want crap that they use now.

    The System worked and if you didn't cause trouble you didn't get a ruler up the side of the head. Cause trouble you did. A simple enough philosophy that even the dumbest of kids could figure it out. I wonder if that's why there was a lot less ADHD and Ritalin kids then than today.


    I left high school in the mid 1960's.
    A 'C' grade student, I was made by my parents to take 'A' grade subjects...against the school's advice.
    You can probably guess what happened.

    I do remember corporal punishment in all schools.
    The headmaster belted me with a cane on my hands 6 times for looking at my watch in 'assembly'.
    I swore after that I would help to have the cane banned in schools...and did.
    I was part of the "sue the schools for assault, drag them thru the courts" brigade, no apologies.

    The system didn't work, kids were being abused.
    The end for the cane in my state came when it was discovered that a Catholic college was routinely caning students 'every' morning so they wouldn't misbehave.

    I also helped [a small 'soldier' in a big 'army'] have parents banned from belting their kids with iron cords, lumps of wood, belts, canes, etc.
    Only allowed now to tap toddlers on the legs and bottoms with their bare hands.
    Tap.

  14. by bambu
    Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:13 am
    "Public_Domain" said
    Bambu, you should visit a public school in North America. No one wants to be there.

    There is interest in learning.

    There is interest in buying crap, playing video games, smoking cigarettes and weed, popping pills, exploring sex with everyone but your friend's friends, and gossiping about clothes, cars, movies, and the internet.

    No one cares about the globe, other than to see their house and to be able to check-in on Facebook.

    I wouldn't use the word "moron". I would use the word "useless", or perhaps "ideal consumers"... It is not stupidity, it's pure systematic apathy. They've been drowning in it since birth. Apathy is all they know.

    I don't blame either the teachers nor the students entirely for this mess. In fact, I feel the problem is barely in their hands.

    Also, the whip will never be coming back. It just won't. You can lament the olden days I suppose, but the strap can never return. If education/interest (or rather, compliance/silent apathy) can't be made without smacking children around, there's problems with far more than just teachers, students, and parents.



    The problems start at education dept HO.
    ...and with the govt.



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