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Misc CDN | 206821 hits | Jul 17 4:55 am | Posted by: Curtman
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In a bold symbolic gesture, Nepinak threw his government-issued Indian status card into the trash � a sign of what he said he wants to do for First Nations people.

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  1. by Anonymous
    Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:59 am
    "As these institutions have become more politicized and more developed along bureaucratic lines, we've lost them," Nepinak said at the meeting Monday.

    In a bold symbolic gesture, Nepinak threw his government-issued Indian status card into the trash ? a sign of what he said he wants to do for First Nations people.

    "This Indian Act card is done with me and I'm done with it," Nepinak said, before he stood up and tossed his card into a garbage can.

    Currently, Canada's First Nations people are governed by the federal Indian Act, which was created in 1876. Under the act, a status Indian has rights to health, education, and tax exemptions for which other Canadians don't qualify.

    But Nepinak said he no longer wants anything to do with the legislation.

    "Do something with that Indian card but distance yourself from it as much as you can," he said.

    "We need to recreate treaty cards and put our faith back in one another again. I think that's how we deconstruct the Indian Act."


    R=UP

  2. by avatar martin14
    Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:20 pm
    Gee, does this mean he is also going to refuse the Rights to Education, Health and Tax breaks ?

    Or is he going to declare war on us ? :lol:

  3. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:33 pm
    While Nepinak does have some good ideas, this is more about him wanting to become the head of a new native organization .....and all the perks that go with it.

  4. by avatar PJB
    Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:34 pm
    As the old movie line says. "The natives are getting restless." It is time for the rest of Canada and all non-native Canadians to get restless too. Let's stand up for our rights.

    Let's stand up for accountability. Let's demand to know where the monies that we donate to the government in our taxes are spent. Let's stop paying groups and organizations that have the sole purpose of destroying our country. Let's share EQUALLY the vast resources that this country has and not be blackmailed by certain groups that claim ownership to everything including water and air.

  5. by Anonymous
    Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:15 am
    "martin14" said
    Gee, does this mean he is also going to refuse the Rights to Education, Health and Tax breaks ?

    Or is he going to declare war on us ? :lol:



    Those greedy bastards...

    "This is a period of scientific uncertainty around nutrition," said Mosby. "Vitamins and minerals had really only been discovered during the interwar period.
    "In the 1940s, there were a lot of questions about what are human requirements for vitamins. Malnourished aboriginal people became viewed as possible means of testing these theories."

    The first experiment began in 1942 on 300 Norway House Cree. Of that group, 125 were selected to receive vitamin supplements which were withheld from the rest.
    At the time, researchers calculated the local people were living on less than 1,500 calories a day. Normal, healthy adults generally require at least 2,000.

    "The research team was well aware that these vitamin supplements only addressed a small part of the problem," Mosby writes. "The experiment seems to have been driven, at least in part, by the nutrition experts' desire to test their theories on a ready-made 'laboratory' populated with already malnourished human experimental subjects."

    The research spread. In 1947, plans were developed for research on about 1,000 hungry aboriginal children in six residential schools in Port Alberni, B.C., Kenora, Ont., Schubenacadie, N.S., and Lethbridge, Alta.

    One school deliberately held milk rations for two years to less than half the recommended amount to get a 'baseline' reading for when the allowance was increased. At another, children were divided into one group that received vitamin, iron and iodine supplements and one that didn't.

    One school depressed levels of vitamin B1 to create another baseline before levels were boosted. A special enriched flour that couldn't legally be sold elsewhere in Canada under food adulteration laws was used on children at another school.
    And, so that all the results could be properly measured, one school was allowed none of those supplements.

    Many dental services were withdrawn from participating schools during that time. Gum health was an important measuring tool for scientists and they didn't want treatments on children's teeth distorting results.


    How would the renegotiation of treaty rights go with this in the history books?

  6. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:21 am
    And school kids were forced to undergo flouride rinses in the schools in the 70s and 80s.....all run by Dr. Josef Mengele.

  7. by avatar raydan
    Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:32 am
    And the Liberals were in power at that time, not the Conservatives... the shame.

  8. by Thanos
    Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:21 am
    Does this mean that Treaty Tuesday is no longer an official holiday in the Nepinak household?

  9. by avatar martin14
    Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:02 am
    "raydan" said
    And the Liberals were in power at that time, not the Conservatives... the shame.




    Shhh, you'll confuse him. :P

  10. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:26 am
    "martin14" said
    And the Liberals were in power at that time, not the Conservatives... the shame.




    Shhh, you'll confuse him. :P

    Doesn't matter that it was the Liberals at the time, it's still Harpers Fault :roll:

    :idea: But........if we legalized pot now this wouldn't have happened back then. 8O

  11. by Anonymous
    Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:36 am
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    And the Liberals were in power at that time, not the Conservatives... the shame.




    Shhh, you'll confuse him. :P

    Doesn't matter that it was the Liberals at the time, it's still Harpers Fault :roll:

    :idea: But........if we legalized pot now this wouldn't have happened back then. 8O

    No, ratifying then cancelling the kelowna accord was. And ignoring the issue for most of the decade after.

    Try to keep on topic..

  12. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:02 pm
    "Curtman" said
    No, ratifying then cancelling the kelowna accord was. And ignoring the issue for most of the decade after.

    Try to keep on topic..



    That's rich coming from a guy who's whole schtick is confined to legalize drugs and give the natives more money, no matter what the topic.

    But hey, as for staying on topic, here's another gem about the Kelowna accord.

    The press release issued by the Office of the Prime Minister on the November 25, 2005 outlined $5 billion in spending over 10 years, but did not set out the means for the fiscal distribution between federal departments, provincial and territorial governments, and Aboriginal groups.


    So after reading your previous posts about people like Theresa Spence I can certainly understand your outrage at the thought that the Conservative Government would have the nerve to cancel a 5 billion dollar taxpayer funded native welfare program with no accountability, stated financial goals or government oversight like the Kelowna accords. :roll:

    So instead of blaming Harper like you always do why not blame Paul Martin for not having the testicles to put the proper checks and balances into place before promising our tax dollars to a select group of people who have continually abused the system for their own personal gain while letting their own constituents languish in poverty.

  13. by Anonymous
    Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:04 pm
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    No, ratifying then cancelling the kelowna accord was. And ignoring the issue for most of the decade after.

    Try to keep on topic..



    That's rich coming from a guy who's whole schtick is confined to legalize drugs and give the natives more money, no matter what the topic.

    Oh yeah.. Well as long as we're just making up stuff again, why not go for the gusto? You're a prohibitionist who is against honouring the treaties that Canada signed on to. I'd be curious to see what quote you could find from me that amounts to "give the natives more money", got any? Bring education funding in-line with with education funding for the non-native population. Somehow in your brain this equates to give them more money I guess.

    :roll:



    "Freakinoldguy" said
    But hey, as for staying on topic, here's another gem about the Kelowna accord.

    The press release issued by the Office of the Prime Minister on the November 25, 2005 outlined $5 billion in spending over 10 years, but did not set out the means for the fiscal distribution between federal departments, provincial and territorial governments, and Aboriginal groups.


    So after reading your previous posts about people like Theresa Spence I can certainly understand your outrage at the thought that the Conservative Government would have the nerve to cancel a 5 billion dollar taxpayer funded native welfare program with no accountability, stated financial goals or government oversight like the Kelowna accords. :roll:

    So instead of blaming Harper like you always do why not blame Paul Martin for not having the testicles to put the proper checks and balances into place before promising our tax dollars to a select group of people who have continually abused the system for their own personal gain while letting their own constituents languish in poverty.


    Kelowna deal included $1.8 billion for education

    A rough agenda released by Martin's Liberal government in the days before the conference suggested the meeting would focus on five critical areas: health, education, economic development, relationships between government and aboriginals, and housing, including incentives for private home ownership on reserves.

    Ottawa said the initiatives would represent a 10-year commitment to raising the standard of living of aboriginal Canadians so that it would be equal that of all other Canadians.

    The plan included:

    $1.8 billion for education, to create school systems, train more aboriginal teachers and identify children with special needs.
    $1.6 billion for housing, including $400 million to address the need for clean water in many remote communities.
    $1.3 billion for health services.
    $200 million for economic development.

    ...

    Alberta Premier Ralph Klein also expressed his disappointment. He said the Kelowna deal went a long way toward addressing the needs of First Nations and M�tis peoples.
    ...
    all the premiers endorsed the agreement.


    5 billion over 10 years to improve the lives of Canadians was axed -vs- the 2 billion spent over a long weekend for the G20 which improved nothing at all whatsoever. Further, the Harperites have attacked existing education that was doing good for these remote communities. It's a clear indication of priorities, and why people should be upset about it.

    For the Harperites to refuse funding to Attawapiskat over undocumented expenses, makes precisely the same amount of sense as if I were to refuse paying income tax based on the undocumented and missing 3 billion dollars in the Federal governments accounting.

  14. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:23 pm
    Blame, blame, blame. There's little to be gained by ill-infomred, partisan reviews of the history of Canada and First Nations. The relevant questions are "Where are we now" and "Where do we want to be in the future."

    Like it or not, First nations rights are consitutionally entrenched and judges have showed no compunction about enforcing them. Like it or not, regardless of who is in power, the situation has not appreciably changed for decades. Even the name "Indian Act" is evidence of that. The reason is that tough decisions on both sides are required to move forward

    In my opinion, given the values of our society, any Act based on race is simply doomed. Race-based law necessarily engenders racism.



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