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Ontario transit proposal could cost each household $477 a year


Provincial Politics | 208162 hits | May 27 3:38 pm | Posted by: commanderkai
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Ontario's transportation agency, Metrolinx, recommends new fees to raise $2 billion annually for public transit in the GTA and Hamilton area, and if adopted, they could amount to each household paying about $477 more in annual taxes.

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  1. by avatar Mowich
    Mon May 27, 2013 10:54 pm
    Whoa.....between this story and the one about ON Hydro's brilliant idea of putting a nuclear waste dump on the shores of Lake Huron - I gotta wonder what is going on back East? Add to that, the other ON Hydro boondoggle and I have to say, I really feel for Ontarions.

  2. by OnTheIce
    Mon May 27, 2013 11:04 pm
    I like this plan. However, we have to do so much more.

    Lets get some shovels in the ground!

  3. by avatar CDN_PATRIOT
    Mon May 27, 2013 11:13 pm
    "OnTheIce" said
    I like this plan. However, we have to do so much more.

    Lets get some shovels in the ground!


    Raising taxes is not a 'plan'. Working class Ontarians can't afford any more freaking taxes. This is just plain ridiculous.

    This whole transit problem could have been avoided and cured a long time ago, if so many officials and governments would have kept their heads out of their asses and actually thought ahead. Fiscal responsibility and a clear vision are always too much to ask for, it seems.

    -J.

  4. by avatar PublicAnimalNo9
    Mon May 27, 2013 11:16 pm
    "OnTheIce" said
    I like this plan. However, we have to do so much more.

    Yeah! Like convincing those living in eastern, northern and south-western Ontario that the tax increase is somehow a good thing for them.

  5. by avatar saturn_656
    Tue May 28, 2013 12:14 am
    "OnTheIce" said
    I like this plan. However, we have to do so much more.

    Lets get some shovels in the ground!


    Are you for real?

    "We're very aware that $477 for a family is a substantial amount of money but we believe it's more than offset by the benefits," Metrolinx chairman Robert Prichard said.

    The benefits would be relieving GTHA congestion while building a regional system to support an integrated regional economy, Metrolinx says.


    There may be benefits if you live in the GTHA, what about those of us who don't? I'll never make use of whatever platinum plated white elephant they're building, so for me it's more of my hard earned cash down the friggin toilet. I'm sick and tired of the boondoggles and the tax hikes. Enough is enough.

  6. by OnTheIce
    Tue May 28, 2013 12:33 am
    "CDN_PATRIOT" said
    I like this plan. However, we have to do so much more.

    Lets get some shovels in the ground!


    Raising taxes is not a 'plan'. Working class Ontarians can't afford any more freaking taxes. This is just plain ridiculous.

    This whole transit problem could have been avoided and cured a long time ago, if so many officials and governments would have kept their heads out of their asses and actually thought ahead. Fiscal responsibility and a clear vision are always too much to ask for, it seems.

    -J.

    Yes, it's a plan. Like you said, it could have been avoided but it wasn't. Enough of this "but we could have done this years ago" and get to work. Transit in this Province is laughable. People with that attitude are the problem.

    "saturn_656" said
    There may be benefits if you live in the GTHA, what about those of us who don't? I'll never make use of whatever platinum plated white elephant they're building, so for me it's more of my hard earned cash down the friggin toilet. I'm sick and tired of the boondoggles and the tax hikes. Enough is enough.


    What about all the people in Toronto funding government projects all over Ontario? Should people in Toronto be responsible for road repairs in Northern Ontario if they can't afford them themselves? Short answer; yes!

    Ontario as a whole funds projects all over this Province. We all fund large, expensive projects in small towns because small towns can't afford them on their own. That's how our system works.

    Time to stop the bullshit and get these projects underway. Enough talk.

  7. by avatar saturn_656
    Tue May 28, 2013 12:44 am
    "OnTheIce" said
    What about all the people in Toronto funding government projects all over Ontario? Should people in Toronto be responsible for road repairs in Northern Ontario if they can't afford them themselves? Short answer; yes!

    Ontario as a whole funds projects all over this Province. We all fund large, expensive projects in small towns because small towns can't afford them on their own. That's how our system works.

    Time to stop the bullshit and get these projects underway. Enough talk.


    Maybe if our highways up here were being properly maintained/paved I would agree with you.

    They are not.

    So I don't.

    Next?

  8. by OnTheIce
    Tue May 28, 2013 1:14 am
    "saturn_656" said
    What about all the people in Toronto funding government projects all over Ontario? Should people in Toronto be responsible for road repairs in Northern Ontario if they can't afford them themselves? Short answer; yes!

    Ontario as a whole funds projects all over this Province. We all fund large, expensive projects in small towns because small towns can't afford them on their own. That's how our system works.

    Time to stop the bullshit and get these projects underway. Enough talk.


    Maybe if our highways up here were being properly maintained/paved I would agree with you.

    They are not.

    So I don't.

    Next?

    Health care, infrastructure, policing, anything else?

    Small-town Ontario doesn't have the financial resources to maintain a hospital, build water filtration systems and the like. Perhaps Toronto should extend a big fuck you to Northern Ontario, just like you're doing to them?

  9. by Lemmy
    Tue May 28, 2013 1:25 am
    What are you talking about? Toronto is a black hole. Its gravitational force sucks cash from the rest of the province. It ain't the other way around.

  10. by avatar raydan
    Tue May 28, 2013 1:31 am
    So Ford would be the event horizon. :lol:

  11. by avatar saturn_656
    Tue May 28, 2013 1:32 am
    "OnTheIce" said
    Health care, infrastructure, policing, anything else?

    Small-town Ontario doesn't have the financial resources to maintain a hospital, build water filtration systems and the like. Perhaps Toronto should extend a big fuck you to Northern Ontario, just like you're doing to them?


    Ha! I don't get to extend a big "fuck you" the government takes my money whether I want them to or not!

    Toronto doesn't even want to pay for their own transit (council voted against taxes to pay for it) so why should I?

    http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/po ... 63240.html

    Transportation: Ending subsidy to Ontario Northland Transportation Commission, cutting spending for northern highway rehabilitation by $208 million over six years


    So the government axes money from the fund to maintain my roads, roads where properly paved shoulders are a rare luxury (and for one highway, any paving at all.) while wanting to raise my taxes explicitly to pay for someone else's transit, transit which even in its current state is of extraordinary quality when compared to what we are stuck with?

    Nope, sorry.

  12. by avatar romanP
    Tue May 28, 2013 1:37 am
    maybe the problem isn't higher taxes or lower taxes or who can afford them. maybe the problem is capitalism creating more and more waste out of an imaginary endless resource supply.

  13. by avatar romanP
    Tue May 28, 2013 1:39 am
    "OnTheIce" said

    Small-town Ontario doesn't have the financial resources to maintain a hospital, build water filtration systems and the like. Perhaps Toronto should extend a big fuck you to Northern Ontario, just like you're doing to them?


    maybe centralised governments should fuck off and let people organise themselves.

  14. by avatar Jonny_C
    Tue May 28, 2013 1:35 pm
    "We're very aware that $477 for a family is a substantial amount of money, but we believe it's more than offset by the benefits," Metrolinx chairman Robert Prichard said.

    Going back to the bottomless well.

    Stupid f*ckin idea.



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