Does not say if he recommended the firing before the Airport debacle or not. That would be interesting to know. Such an upstanding cop who they wanted fired yet somehow he made Corperal, which in some detachments would put him in charge of the detachment. Crazy, scary...
He didn't recommend the firing before the Airport debacle because he didn't become top cop until well after it happened. And there were no black marks on Robinson before the two incidents. He was probably already an alcoholic, but I guess covered it well.
He's native so may have been given extra benefit. But, he may also have functioned perfectly well, while still being a lush, until a situation got out of hand - ie the Dziekanski case, which stressed him to the point of breakdown.
Lots of people like that in private industry too, tho they're more easily fired if their work suffers. But with human rights legislation, even there you can't just fire them for being an addict.
The good cops looked the other way When misconduct and criminal activity happened Because they knew Somewhere down the road the system would be there to protect them.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt (before I tell you to go F yourself) that you are not meaning to say all good cops will one day become bad and that good cops will not report criminal activity going on among other members.
"andyt" said He's native so may have been given extra benefit. But, he may also have functioned perfectly well, while still being a lush, until a situation got out of hand - ie the Dziekanski case, which stressed him to the point of breakdown.
Lots of people like that in private industry too, tho they're more easily fired if their work suffers. But with human rights legislation, even there you can't just fire them for being an addict.
Well my ability to write English is certainly superior. Forgive my misunderstanding with your improper capitalization, absent use of commas, improper pluralization, and misuse of verb tense. I can't imagine how I was not sure what you were saying.
Good cops don't have to worry about the system protecting them. Because they are good, and won't break the law, they don't need protection.
"Thin blue line old boys club" lol, if one of my co-workers sexually assaulted another I'm diming him or her out for sure. I keep creepers and scum in jail, certainly don't want to work side by side with scum for co-workers.
"Benn" said Well my ability to write English is certainly superior. Forgive my misunderstanding with your improper capitalization, absent use of commas, improper pluralization, and misuse of verb tense. I can't imagine how I was not sure what you were saying.
Good cops don't have to worry about the system protecting them. Because they are good, and won't break the law, they don't need protection.
"Thin blue line old boys club" lol, if one of my co-workers sexually assaulted another I'm diming him or her out for sure. I keep creepers and scum in jail, certainly don't want to work side by side with scum for co-workers.
"Benn" said Well my ability to write English is certainly superior. Forgive my misunderstanding with your improper capitalization, absent use of commas, improper pluralization, and misuse of verb tense. I can't imagine how I was not sure what you were saying.
Good cops don't have to worry about the system protecting them. Because they are good, and won't break the law, they don't need protection.
"Thin blue line old boys club" lol, if one of my co-workers sexually assaulted another I'm diming him or her out for sure. I keep creepers and scum in jail, certainly don't want to work side by side with scum for co-workers.
If Callens is actually successful in this, and they do start weeding out the bad apples more effectively, it will do nothing but good for the good apples. In BC, we get nothing but bad RCMP stories right now. You can say that's the media, but it's not as if the media is making up these stories - so many horsemen are acting like roadapples. Time to straighten them out - we want to be proud of the RCMP the way we used to be.
"andyt" said If Callens is actually successful in this, and they do start weeding out the bad apples more effectively, it will do nothing but good for the good apples. In BC, we get nothing but bad RCMP stories right now. You can say that's the media, but it's not as if the media is making up these stories - so many horsemen are acting like roadapples. Time to straighten them out - we want to be proud of the RCMP the way we used to be.
There are almost 18 thousand badged RCMP officers. We've heard of what? 50? Max? That's .28 % of officers. So yes, it is the media blowing up each situation and making it bigger than it actually is.
So what are you saying, the media shouldn't report on those .28%? Or run stories like: "today 98% of RCMP officers did not assault a suspect who was handcuffed and not resisting. No RCMP officers shot anybody under suspicious circumstances today?"
This is a good effort, but not nearly enough. The Dziekanski 4 were originally not charged and so would never have fallen under the rubric of this reform. The cop who claimed to have shot an unarmed man while he was prone and in fear of his life, and was not charged despite forensic evidence and the eyewitness testimony of his partner would not fall under it either. Etc - many bad apples will still skate, but at least it's a step in the right direction. If it goes ahead.
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And there were no black marks on Robinson before the two incidents. He was probably already an alcoholic, but I guess covered it well.
So far as we know.
Pull off the shroud of Law Enforcement mystic and secrecy and you'll see it promotes incompetence just as much as other government departments do.
Not saying this guy was, just wondering out loud.
Lots of people like that in private industry too, tho they're more easily fired if their work suffers. But with human rights legislation, even there you can't just fire them for being an addict.
The good cops looked the other way When misconduct and criminal activity happened Because they knew Somewhere down the road the system would be there to protect them.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt (before I tell you to go F yourself) that you are not meaning to say all good cops will one day become bad and that good cops will not report criminal activity going on among other members.
He's native so may have been given extra benefit. But, he may also have functioned perfectly well, while still being a lush, until a situation got out of hand - ie the Dziekanski case, which stressed him to the point of breakdown.
Lots of people like that in private industry too, tho they're more easily fired if their work suffers. But with human rights legislation, even there you can't just fire them for being an addict.
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Good cops don't have to worry about the system protecting them. Because they are good, and won't break the law, they don't need protection.
"Thin blue line old boys club" lol, if one of my co-workers sexually assaulted another I'm diming him or her out for sure. I keep creepers and scum in jail, certainly don't want to work side by side with scum for co-workers.
Well my ability to write English is certainly superior. Forgive my misunderstanding with your improper capitalization, absent use of commas, improper pluralization, and misuse of verb tense. I can't imagine how I was not sure what you were saying.
Good cops don't have to worry about the system protecting them. Because they are good, and won't break the law, they don't need protection.
"Thin blue line old boys club" lol, if one of my co-workers sexually assaulted another I'm diming him or her out for sure. I keep creepers and scum in jail, certainly don't want to work side by side with scum for co-workers.
I'd rep ya if I could.
Well my ability to write English is certainly superior. Forgive my misunderstanding with your improper capitalization, absent use of commas, improper pluralization, and misuse of verb tense. I can't imagine how I was not sure what you were saying.
Good cops don't have to worry about the system protecting them. Because they are good, and won't break the law, they don't need protection.
"Thin blue line old boys club" lol, if one of my co-workers sexually assaulted another I'm diming him or her out for sure. I keep creepers and scum in jail, certainly don't want to work side by side with scum for co-workers.
Turn those points on, sport.
If Callens is actually successful in this, and they do start weeding out the bad apples more effectively, it will do nothing but good for the good apples. In BC, we get nothing but bad RCMP stories right now. You can say that's the media, but it's not as if the media is making up these stories - so many horsemen are acting like roadapples. Time to straighten them out - we want to be proud of the RCMP the way we used to be.
There are almost 18 thousand badged RCMP officers. We've heard of what? 50? Max? That's .28 % of officers. So yes, it is the media blowing up each situation and making it bigger than it actually is.
This is a good effort, but not nearly enough. The Dziekanski 4 were originally not charged and so would never have fallen under the rubric of this reform. The cop who claimed to have shot an unarmed man while he was prone and in fear of his life, and was not charged despite forensic evidence and the eyewitness testimony of his partner would not fall under it either. Etc - many bad apples will still skate, but at least it's a step in the right direction. If it goes ahead.