Don't kid yourself, Bart. Those asshole Orthodox in Israel are just as bad as the fundies in the Muslim countries or the ones at Westboro Baptist are. Netanhahu's government is a bad joke because the deal-making he had to make with the hardcores put them effecitively in charge of the entire country, and they're the ones who are continually provoking the Palestinians by stealing what's left of their designated land to build settlements in the West Bank (and believe me too when I say that I very infrequently ever feel too sympathetic towards the Palestinians).
Religion itself isn't the problem, but any of the damned fundamentalism that springs from it certainly is.
"Thanos" said Don't kid yourself, Bart. Those asshole Orthodox in Israel are just as bad as the fundies in the Muslim countries or the ones at Westboro Baptist are. Netanhahu's government is a bad joke because the deal-making he had to make with the hardcores put them effecitively in charge of the entire country, and they're the ones who are continually provoking the Palestinians by stealing what's left of their designated land to build settlements in the West Bank (and believe me too when I say that I very infrequently ever feel too sympathetic towards the Palestinians).
Religion itself isn't the problem, but any of the damned fundamentalism that springs from it certainly is.
And I have to totally agree, again. This is right on the money.
Religion itself isn't the problem, but any of the damned fundamentalism that springs from it certainly is.
Really? Fundamentalism merely means that you strictly adhere to your beliefs.
A fundamentalist liberal or a fundamental secularist probably would be okay with you.
A fundamentalist Ba'hai would be a pretty nice person, I'd imagine.
Fundamentalist Christians are sometimes great people depending on how they roll with that. A guy I know from high school is a member of The Way (sort of culty to me) and he's a pacifist, politically neutral on a host of social issues, he's got ten kids now, and etc. and I don't think I've ever heard him utter a controversial opinion. Meaning I'm almost certain if you met him you'd find him rather unremarkable. But he's still a very strict believer in what he believes.
An acquaintance of mine went off at age 18 and married into a fundamentalist Christian group that practices polygamy and they're pretty strict about a host of things yet they're not out into anyone else's business because they also take it to heart about not judging anyone else if there's a fault in their own heart.
The fundamentalist Muslims you'll note I don't *argue* with because they are standing up to what they believe in. I've honestly very little problem with them doing their thing so long as they don't want me to do it, too.
I'd further be okay with these people like in Saudi Arabia or Iran if they would allow religious offenders to be banished from their countries as opposed to putting them to death.
In short, I have some respect for fundamentalists of all stripes so long as they actually live the life they're promoting. Hypocrites, like the pedarasts in Afghanistan who say that as long as it's "only" sex with a little boy and not a man then it's not homosexuality (I'm not exaggerating) make me sick. Hypocrites like in the Catholic Church who denounce homosexuality while priests are molesting little boys all over the place make me sick. Hypocrites like the Westboro church who vomit their bile over everyone while having no redeeming aspects whatsoever make me angry. And etc.
Orthodox Jews, for the most part, I've always found to be decent, hardworking and trustworthy people and this idiotic decision to stone a dog to death utterly stymies me.
Religion itself isn't the problem, but any of the damned fundamentalism that springs from it certainly is.
Really? Fundamentalism merely means that you strictly adhere to your beliefs.
There is fundamentalism and then there is fundamentalism. As you suggest some fundamentalism is relatively benign but some you have to question.
There are, at one estimate, over 38,000 versions of Christianity on the planet. This will include the major versions like the Catholics and the Anglicans, the Baptists and the Methodists etc. Then you have the rabble like the Family Radio cult and it's wannabes which clutter the streets, alleys, television and internet. Each group claim ownership of God and get really indignant when someone questions it.
Then to this pot you add a bit of all the other non-Christian religions; Islam, Judaism etc.
One belief that they share is that there group alone hold the truth and all others are going to hell, or whatever. Another belief is; they all hold to a scripture that describes phenomena that will defy rational thought.
Add to this, many of the individuals in these groups refuse to think critically for themselves.
Stoning a innocent dog to death for a irrational "spiritual" misdemeanor would fit, easily.
Religion itself isn't the problem, but any of the damned fundamentalism that springs from it certainly is.
Really? Fundamentalism merely means that you strictly adhere to your beliefs.
A fundamentalist liberal or a fundamental secularist probably would be okay with you.
A fundamentalist Ba'hai would be a pretty nice person, I'd imagine.
Fundamentalist Christians are sometimes great people depending on how they roll with that. A guy I know from high school is a member of The Way (sort of culty to me) and he's a pacifist, politically neutral on a host of social issues, he's got ten kids now, and etc. and I don't think I've ever heard him utter a controversial opinion. Meaning I'm almost certain if you met him you'd find him rather unremarkable. But he's still a very strict believer in what he believes.
An acquaintance of mine went off at age 18 and married into a fundamentalist Christian group that practices polygamy and they're pretty strict about a host of things yet they're not out into anyone else's business because they also take it to heart about not judging anyone else if there's a fault in their own heart.
The fundamentalist Muslims you'll note I don't *argue* with because they are standing up to what they believe in. I've honestly very little problem with them doing their thing so long as they don't want me to do it, too.
I'd further be okay with these people like in Saudi Arabia or Iran if they would allow religious offenders to be banished from their countries as opposed to putting them to death.
In short, I have some respect for fundamentalists of all stripes so long as they actually live the life they're promoting. Hypocrites, like the pedarasts in Afghanistan who say that as long as it's "only" sex with a little boy and not a man then it's not homosexuality (I'm not exaggerating) make me sick. Hypocrites like in the Catholic Church who denounce homosexuality while priests are molesting little boys all over the place make me sick. Hypocrites like the Westboro church who vomit their bile over everyone while having no redeeming aspects whatsoever make me angry. And etc.
Orthodox Jews, for the most part, I've always found to be decent, hardworking and trustworthy people and this idiotic decision to stone a dog to death utterly stymies me.
Bart....nobody likes the Blackhats, except other Blackhats. These assholes would turn Israel into a Jewish version of Iran, with even fewer rights, if they could. if they all dropped dead, the overwhelming majority of Israelis(and other Jews who live near them elsewhere) would be happy.
"ShepherdsDog" said These assholes would turn Israel into a Jewish version of Iran, with even fewer rights, if they could. if they all dropped dead, the overwhelming majority of Israelis(and other Jews who live near them elsewhere) would be happy.
Indeed. They are to Judaism what the fundamentalist FLDS Mormons are to Christianity.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12120259
The Saudis need to keep up. They only detained a vulture for being an Israeli spy.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12120259
With modern technology you never know.
Religion itself isn't the problem, but any of the damned fundamentalism that springs from it certainly is.
Don't kid yourself, Bart. Those asshole Orthodox in Israel are just as bad as the fundies in the Muslim countries
Be sure to send me a memo when they behead or stone rape victims to death.
Don't kid yourself, Bart. Those asshole Orthodox in Israel are just as bad as the fundies in the Muslim countries or the ones at Westboro Baptist are. Netanhahu's government is a bad joke because the deal-making he had to make with the hardcores put them effecitively in charge of the entire country, and they're the ones who are continually provoking the Palestinians by stealing what's left of their designated land to build settlements in the West Bank (and believe me too when I say that I very infrequently ever feel too sympathetic towards the Palestinians).
Religion itself isn't the problem, but any of the damned fundamentalism that springs from it certainly is.
And I have to totally agree, again. This is right on the money.
Religion itself isn't the problem, but any of the damned fundamentalism that springs from it certainly is.
Really? Fundamentalism merely means that you strictly adhere to your beliefs.
A fundamentalist liberal or a fundamental secularist probably would be okay with you.
A fundamentalist Ba'hai would be a pretty nice person, I'd imagine.
Fundamentalist Christians are sometimes great people depending on how they roll with that. A guy I know from high school is a member of The Way (sort of culty to me) and he's a pacifist, politically neutral on a host of social issues, he's got ten kids now, and etc. and I don't think I've ever heard him utter a controversial opinion. Meaning I'm almost certain if you met him you'd find him rather unremarkable. But he's still a very strict believer in what he believes.
An acquaintance of mine went off at age 18 and married into a fundamentalist Christian group that practices polygamy and they're pretty strict about a host of things yet they're not out into anyone else's business because they also take it to heart about not judging anyone else if there's a fault in their own heart.
The fundamentalist Muslims you'll note I don't *argue* with because they are standing up to what they believe in. I've honestly very little problem with them doing their thing so long as they don't want me to do it, too.
I'd further be okay with these people like in Saudi Arabia or Iran if they would allow religious offenders to be banished from their countries as opposed to putting them to death.
In short, I have some respect for fundamentalists of all stripes so long as they actually live the life they're promoting. Hypocrites, like the pedarasts in Afghanistan who say that as long as it's "only" sex with a little boy and not a man then it's not homosexuality (I'm not exaggerating) make me sick. Hypocrites like in the Catholic Church who denounce homosexuality while priests are molesting little boys all over the place make me sick. Hypocrites like the Westboro church who vomit their bile over everyone while having no redeeming aspects whatsoever make me angry. And etc.
Orthodox Jews, for the most part, I've always found to be decent, hardworking and trustworthy people and this idiotic decision to stone a dog to death utterly stymies me.
Disappointing that this kind of ignorant horsesh*t came out of Israel.
I think these Orthodox rabbis have spent a little too much time in the sun.
Religion itself isn't the problem, but any of the damned fundamentalism that springs from it certainly is.
Really? Fundamentalism merely means that you strictly adhere to your beliefs.
There is fundamentalism and then there is fundamentalism. As you suggest some fundamentalism is relatively benign but some you have to question.
There are, at one estimate, over 38,000 versions of Christianity on the planet. This will include the major versions like the Catholics and the Anglicans, the Baptists and the Methodists etc. Then you have the rabble like the Family Radio cult and it's wannabes which clutter the streets, alleys, television and internet. Each group claim ownership of God and get really indignant when someone questions it.
Then to this pot you add a bit of all the other non-Christian religions; Islam, Judaism etc.
One belief that they share is that there group alone hold the truth and all others are going to hell, or whatever. Another belief is; they all hold to a scripture that describes phenomena that will defy rational thought.
Add to this, many of the individuals in these groups refuse to think critically for themselves.
Stoning a innocent dog to death for a irrational "spiritual" misdemeanor would fit, easily.
Religion itself isn't the problem, but any of the damned fundamentalism that springs from it certainly is.
Really? Fundamentalism merely means that you strictly adhere to your beliefs.
A fundamentalist liberal or a fundamental secularist probably would be okay with you.
A fundamentalist Ba'hai would be a pretty nice person, I'd imagine.
Fundamentalist Christians are sometimes great people depending on how they roll with that. A guy I know from high school is a member of The Way (sort of culty to me) and he's a pacifist, politically neutral on a host of social issues, he's got ten kids now, and etc. and I don't think I've ever heard him utter a controversial opinion. Meaning I'm almost certain if you met him you'd find him rather unremarkable. But he's still a very strict believer in what he believes.
An acquaintance of mine went off at age 18 and married into a fundamentalist Christian group that practices polygamy and they're pretty strict about a host of things yet they're not out into anyone else's business because they also take it to heart about not judging anyone else if there's a fault in their own heart.
The fundamentalist Muslims you'll note I don't *argue* with because they are standing up to what they believe in. I've honestly very little problem with them doing their thing so long as they don't want me to do it, too.
I'd further be okay with these people like in Saudi Arabia or Iran if they would allow religious offenders to be banished from their countries as opposed to putting them to death.
In short, I have some respect for fundamentalists of all stripes so long as they actually live the life they're promoting. Hypocrites, like the pedarasts in Afghanistan who say that as long as it's "only" sex with a little boy and not a man then it's not homosexuality (I'm not exaggerating) make me sick. Hypocrites like in the Catholic Church who denounce homosexuality while priests are molesting little boys all over the place make me sick. Hypocrites like the Westboro church who vomit their bile over everyone while having no redeeming aspects whatsoever make me angry. And etc.
Orthodox Jews, for the most part, I've always found to be decent, hardworking and trustworthy people and this idiotic decision to stone a dog to death utterly stymies me.
Bart....nobody likes the Blackhats, except other Blackhats. These assholes would turn Israel into a Jewish version of Iran, with even fewer rights, if they could. if they all dropped dead, the overwhelming majority of Israelis(and other Jews who live near them elsewhere) would be happy.
These assholes would turn Israel into a Jewish version of Iran, with even fewer rights, if they could. if they all dropped dead, the overwhelming majority of Israelis(and other Jews who live near them elsewhere) would be happy.
Indeed. They are to Judaism what the fundamentalist FLDS Mormons are to Christianity.