US condemns massive leak of Afghan war files A whistleblower leaked tens of thousands of secret military files on the Afghan war Monday, documenting the deaths of innocent civilians and how Pakistan's spy agency secretly supports the Taliban.Commentsview comments in forum Page 1 2 You need to be a member of CKA and be logged into the site, to comment on news. |
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It is operated by an organisation known as the Sunshine Press and claims to be "funded by human rights campaigners, investigative journalists, technologists and the general public".
lots of people who have vested interests in sensationalizing things,
in order to promote their own agenda.
The only thing this will show is that.. yes, war is hell.
And sorry, but doing this in the middle of an ongoing military action is just plain wrong.
I'm just happy there didnt seem to be much of this during WW2, we
would have lost, just like we are running that risk in Afghanistan.
I'm just happy there didnt seem to be much of this during WW2
Actually, there was a massive amount of espionage going on during WW2. Except back then the espionage was being done to benefit the USSR so it got a pass from the left. And when we caught these people they didn't go free, especially during the war, they were executed and sometimes by secret military tribunals. Most of the wartime Soviet spies who stole secrets from the Manhattan Project were caught and tried and executed in secret in order to keep the details of the Manhattan Project quiet.
Which is what should happen here. The Wikileaks personnel responsible for this should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and if a conviction for treason is returned they should face the appropriate and maximum penalty.
With the Internet now, it's quite hard to keep informations secret. It brings a debate tho: who should be held accountable ? Wikileaks, the whistle-blower, the newspaper that released the informations ?
The NYTimes and the Guardian said that they had the files for month. I guess they made a lot of legal searching to know if it was OK to release them.
Actually Bart, I was referring more about the idea of this stuff being made .
Me, too. There's a number of public stories about information about D-Day being made public before D-Day were 'accidental'. But there were also episodes of public leakage of facts of events leading up to D-Day resulted in some members of the press finding themselves 'assigned' to remote locations for the duration of the war and there's also hints in some historic records that some reporters who 'died in action' .
I've just read that there are some documents saying that Iran is actively supporting the Talibans and might have links with the Afghanistan government. I'm not surprised at all.
Nor am I. The fact of the Sunni/Shiite hatred thing tends to go by the wayside when the topic is a common enemy.
The bit about the S&D unit I'm sure the army didn't want made public (even though the Taliban would know very well already). But the parts about the ineffective Afghan gov't isn't exactly a state secret.
The question is though, just how much of this actually sensitive information and how much is simply under the category of "trying to hide unflattering info".
The bit about the S&D unit I'm sure the ray didn't want mad pblc (even though the Taliban would know very well already). But the parts about the ineffective Afghan gov't isn't exactly a state secret.
It seems to be the consensus. Most informations were already known. There are some new things but I think it's more an "attack" against the US because the guy at Wikileaks is very anti-war and anti-US.
Long live freedom of the press, I say.
+1. As some are so fond of asking, "What do they have to hide?". Sucks when the tables are turned, yes?
Operationally, it could be very bad for all of NATO. Let's hope not. But let's remember too, someone on the inside with access leaked this information. They must have done so for a very good reason, considering the penalties if they are identified.
Long live freedom of the press, I say.
I agree. Freedom of the press is very important. But it would be nice if they'd show a little discretion and, dare I say it, some loyalty to their respective countries?
Seriously, the media run around committing acts of treason and espionage all the time and they actively betray the trust of the people who confide in them. "Off the record" only means off the record when it suits them.
And then they wonder why the military, whose members can literally die because of betrayed secrets, don't trust them?
Are you for or against the release of those files under the right of freedom of the press ?
I would like to know your position on this.
2. The Taliban has employed heat-seeking anti-aircraft rockets, of the same kind the US gave the mujahedeen during the Soviet occupation.
3. The US covered up one attack made with one of those rockets, saying it had been downed by conventional weaponry.
4. US drones are far less effective than commonly believed; they often crash or collide with each other, forcing troops to undertake dangerous missions to retrieve their weaponry.
5. The Afghan spy agency is basically a subsidy of the CIA, which pays its entire budget.
6. The US has given the Afghans credit for missions actually carried out by US Special Ops commandos.
7. Humanitarian aid money frequently simply disappears, or else projects fail due to cultural misunderstandings.
8. Pakistan is suspected of being a strong supporter of the Taliban, meeting with them to give them advice. Though that�s not exactly a surprise.
9. In one report, an Afghan general threatens to reveal that President Hamid Karzai was once a drug trader and supporter of the insurgency.
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