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Who really receives more tax money then gives i

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Who really receives more tax money then gives in California.


Political | 206653 hits | Jun 23 8:37 am | Posted by: DerbyX
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Counties that provide most of the state's revenue streams like income and sales taxes reliably elect Democrats, who traditionally want to take more of your money. And counties whose Republican representatives argue most vociferously for social services cu

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  1. by avatar andyt
    Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:32 pm
    The truth will out.

    "People don't understand how much they get for the money they pay. It starts with making communities more aware," said Connie Stewart, a former mayor of Arcata and the executive director of Humboldt State's California Center for Rural Policy.

  2. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:56 pm
    What's not mentioned here are the facts that:
    1. Prison populations are concentrated in rural areas and the families of inmates tend to move to be near their incarcerated family members and that causes a draw on social spending.
    2. Rural and agrarian counties are the ones most impacted by illegal immigrants and the state is obligated to reimburse those counties for many of the state-mandated expenses for illegal immigrants.
    3. State spending on electrical and water infrastructure is concentrated in rural areas.
    4. Rural counties receive a disproportionate number of parolees and sex offenders due to various laws that prohibit sex offenders and violent offenders from living in urban areas and then the state has to reimburse the counties for the expenses in maintaining and supervising these criminals.

    What is not mentioned in the report is that the average income of >> US citizens << living in rural counties tends to be above the state average. This is for two reasons: 1. so-called 'super commuters' who work in the urban areas and live in rural areas. 2. Simply put, rich farmers.

    There has long been a demand from the rural counties to require paroled inmates to be paroled to their county of origin to reduce rural costs in managin urban criminals. There has also been a huge demand to cut mandated services to illegal aliens who disproportionately affect rural counties. We'll see what happens.

    Most likely, nothing.

  3. by DerbyX
    Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:05 pm
    Factors that have never been taken into consideration when its republicans saying its democrat counties sucking at the tax-payer teat.

  4. by avatar commanderkai
    Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:58 pm
    Even beyond other factors, like Bart mentioned, I'm not sure why this is surprising. Rural areas are commonly sparsely populated, and if you're going to do a per capita comparison between urban and rural areas, no doubt urban will look smaller due to the huge sizes of cities.

    Plus, what about essential services like fire prevention? I'd assume a lot of these rural communities are given money to maintain larger fire departments for those very common forest fires that occur in California in the summer.

  5. by avatar KorbenDeck
    Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:32 pm
    There was an article in my local paper that basically said for rural areas around here for every $1 in taxes they pay it cost the city $1.30 to provide services. That's why I'm not a fan of cutting down forest just so we can create more rural housing which is unsustainable.

  6. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:10 pm
    "DerbyX" said
    Factors that have never been taken into consideration when its republicans saying its democrat counties sucking at the tax-payer teat.


    Ironically, in California Democrat millionaires and billionaires outnumber the Republicans of similar wealth by about 2:1.

  7. by avatar andyt
    Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:41 am
    "BartSimpson" said
    Factors that have never been taken into consideration when its republicans saying its democrat counties sucking at the tax-payer teat.


    Ironically, in California Democrat millionaires and billionaires outnumber the Republicans of similar wealth by about 2:1.

    See, it's possible to be rich and still have a bit of a social conscience.

  8. by avatar Dragom
    Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:49 am
    Well that explains why the Democrats are paying more tax then.

    If people in rural California where wealthier then people in the Cities then why aren't they paying more?

    And dozens of sex offenders are easily balanced by however many thousands of homeless people litter San Fran and Los Angeles.

    And lastly, as a person Saskatchewan raised among the golden wheat and dull eyed yet delicious cows... Whats a rich farmer?

  9. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:37 pm
    "Dragom" said
    Whats a rich farmer?


    Oh, forgive me, I guess our farmers live in abject, Third-world levels of poverty.



    This castle is really in Napa, California.



    Poor Mondavi family has to suffer in such awful squalor.



    It sickens me to see poor farmers subjected to such awful living conditions.



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