Police: teen accidentally shoots, kills brother

Misc CDN | 206801 hits | Jun 23 8:24 am | Posted by: Benn

RCMP in Saskatchewan believe a 13-year-old boy accidentally shot and killed his 23-year-old brother at a party on Saturday.

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by Guy_Fawkes
Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:54 pm
Darwin award.
by andyt
Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:58 pm
"Guy_Fawkes" said
Darwin award.

Well no, for that he shooter would have to die. Or really the gun owner who left it out in the first place. I hope he's facing some serious charges.
by fifeboy
Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:02 pm
"andyt" said
Darwin award.

Well no, for that he shooter would have to die. Or really the gun owner who left it out in the first place. I hope he's facing some serious charges.It would be if one considers reverse kin selection.
by fifeboy
Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:16 pm
This incident also points to the reason why we have laws restricting the use of firearms. The firearm should not have been in the hands of a 13 year old without direct supervision by a qualified adult. It should not have been loaded and as it appears no one was shooting targets or hunting it should have been locked in a safe. Of course this would be violating their Constitutional rights to walk around with a loaded firearm in the hands of a thirteen year old. Some would call it collateral damage.
by andyt
Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:21 pm
What is reverse kin selection?

If the kid had shot the person responsible for securing that gun, that would merit a Darwin award.
by fifeboy
Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:36 pm
"andyt" said
What is reverse kin selection?

If the kid had shot the person responsible for securing that gun, that would merit a Darwin award.
Kin selection is a type of natural selection where sacrificing yourself for someone you are closely related to (a brother) helps preserve your genes and allowing them to be passed along to the next generation. E.O. Wilson wrote a book on it back in the "70's" Reverse kin selection is just something I just made up. Sort of like, "if you kill your brother than your genes are less likely to pass to the next generation." Sorry
by Chumley
Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:53 pm
"fifeboy" said
What is reverse kin selection?

If the kid had shot the person responsible for securing that gun, that would merit a Darwin award.
Kin selection is a type of natural selection where sacrificing yourself for someone you are closely related to (a brother) helps preserve your genes and allowing them to be passed along to the next generation. E.O. Wilson wrote a book on it back in the "70's" Reverse kin selection is just something I just made up. Sort of like, "if you kill your brother than your genes are less likely to pass to the next generation." Sorry

Interesting thought. So this book is saying there is a natural tendency for a family member who is or percieves themselves to be inferior in some way to sacrifice thier own self interests more readily to preserve the stronger sibling?
by Benn
Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:53 pm
About 60 people were gathered at the property for a going-away party

It was an appropriate party, someone went away alright!
by fifeboy
Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:54 pm
"Chumley" said

Interesting thought. So this book is saying there is a natural tendency for a family member who is or percieves themselves to be inferior in some way to sacrifice thier own self interests more readily to preserve the stronger sibling?
E.O Wilson is an entomologist who works with social insects. I can't remember if this originates with him or not but there is a branch of biology where all this fits called sociobiology which I don't know much about. I read the book years ago (1976) but if I recall it tried to make a case for altruism being driven by a desire to preserve the genes you were most closely associated with. It was also the last I have read on the matter.
by Regina
Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:56 pm
Some going away party.............
by BartSimpson
Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:58 pm
Man, what are we going to do about all of these sentient guns that just 'go off' all on their own?
by andyt
Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:00 pm
"fifeboy" said

Interesting thought. So this book is saying there is a natural tendency for a family member who is or percieves themselves to be inferior in some way to sacrifice thier own self interests more readily to preserve the stronger sibling?
E.O Wilson is an entomologist who works with social insects. I can't remember if this originates with him or not but there is a branch of biology where all this fits called sociobiology which I don't know much about. I read the book years ago (1976) but if I recall it tried to make a case for altruism being driven by a desire to preserve the genes you were most closely associated with. It was also the last I have read on the matter.

Dawkins is also big on this stuff. You can make mathematical calculations of how closely organisms are related genetically vs their engaging in altruistic behaviors. Bees are big on it - they're all sisters working toward the common goal of having their breeding sister produce as many reproducing offspring as possible.

But people have challenged this view - in humans, and also in say dogs giving their life for their owner.

Sociobiology investigates social behaviors, such as mating patterns, territorial fights, pack hunting, and the hive society of social insects. Just as selection pressure led to animals evolving useful ways of interacting with the natural environment, it led to the genetic evolution of advantageous social behavior.
Sociobiology has become one of the greatest scientific controversies of the late 20th and early 21st centuries, especially in the context of explaining human behavior. Applied to non-humans, sociobiology is uncontroversial. Criticism, most notably made by Richard Lewontin and Stephen Jay Gould, centers on sociobiology's contention that genes play an ultimate role in human behavior and that traits such as aggressiveness can be explained by biology rather than a person's social environment. Many sociobiologists, however, cite a complex relationship between nature and nurture. In response to the controversy, anthropologist John Tooby and psychologist Leda Cosmides launched evolutionary psychology as a branch of sociobiology made less controversial by avoiding questions of human biodiversity.
by fifeboy
Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:28 pm
"andyt" said

But people have challenged this view - in humans, and also in say dogs giving their life for their owner.

Science would be so boring if nobody was able to challenge. Ain't it grand.

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