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RCMP gun has troubled history in Ottawa

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RCMP gun has troubled history in Ottawa


Law & Order | 206908 hits | Apr 08 4:38 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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The RCMP hopes the return of Heckler & Koch MP5 guns to Parliament Hill and embassy guard duties will go off without a bang.

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  1. by avatar uwish
    Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:21 am
    I highly doubt this has anything to do with the MP5, it is a reliable firearm if you know how to use it.

    My guess is our national police force needs to spend some more time at the range!

    when I was in the military, I had the opportunity to work with MP5's and other semi-and fully auto firearms. I didn't come accross one that would instantaneously start shooting without someones fat finger on the trigger....

  2. by digerdick
    Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:50 am
    Judging by the last few years, and a constant stream of RCMP missteps...... lets just hope that these people don't start shooting each another.........

  3. by avatar GreenTiger
    Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:04 pm
    Theses days with the new terrorism threat superior fire power is required in a fire fight where you have to put your enemy down quickly to save lives. I;m sure with proper training the MP5 will work out out fine and hopefully they wont have to be used,

  4. by avatar BeaverFever
    Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:21 pm
    A single-shot only version is a waste of resources, in my mind, that's little better than a 9mm pistol with a stock for firing from the shoulder. How about we issue the REAL MP5 and exercise a lot more quality control in our recruitment and police skills training instead of focusing on riding horses to music. It's pretty embarassing that "our nation's finest" can't be trusted with proven, fully automatic weapons.

  5. by Regina  Gold Member
    Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:24 pm
    "diggerdick" said
    Judging by the last few years, and a constant stream of RCMP missteps...... lets just hope that these people don't start shooting each another.........

    Reading your usual posts, one would think you'd feel that was a good thing.

  6. by avatar gonavy47
    Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:28 pm
    Single-shot 9mm automatic rifle? Might as well duct-tape a stock to their pistol. They need fully-automatic weapons in a fire-fight. Period.

  7. by avatar Scape
    Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:33 pm
    Give them P90's or MP7's at least. MP5 just makes me want to play CS.

  8. by avatar 2Cdo
    Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:33 pm
    "uwish" said
    I highly doubt this has anything to do with the MP5, it is a reliable firearm if you know how to use it.

    My guess is our national police force needs to spend some more time at the range!

    when I was in the military, I had the opportunity to work with MP5's and other semi-and fully auto firearms. I didn't come accross one that would instantaneously start shooting without someones fat finger on the trigger....


    Exactly! Over 30 years of owning/using weapons and never had a weapon just fire on it's own. Every incident the RCMP had with this weapon discharging was found to be incompetent users.

  9. by DerbyX
    Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:39 pm
    "2Cdo" said
    I highly doubt this has anything to do with the MP5, it is a reliable firearm if you know how to use it.

    My guess is our national police force needs to spend some more time at the range!

    when I was in the military, I had the opportunity to work with MP5's and other semi-and fully auto firearms. I didn't come accross one that would instantaneously start shooting without someones fat finger on the trigger....


    Exactly! Over 30 years of owning/using weapons and never had a weapon just fire on it's own. Every incident the RCMP had with this weapon discharging was found to be incompetent users.

    What? Do you mean that scene in True Lies where Jamie Lee Curtis drops the uzi and it falls down the stairs firing all the way on full auto taking out about 30 bad guys wasn't really possible? 8O

    I bet that scene on Naboo was faked too.

  10. by avatar uwish
    Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:41 pm
    this comes from a rampant anti-gun culture and people irrational fear of firearms combined with poor and inadequate training. Once the RCMP leave depot, unless you are part of SWAT / SOF your firearms training falls to your qualifying only. Which means they become pretty dam useless with a gun.

  11. by digerdick
    Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:52 pm
    "Regina" said
    Judging by the last few years, and a constant stream of RCMP missteps...... lets just hope that these people don't start shooting each another.........

    Reading your usual posts, one would think you'd feel that was a good thing.obviously you do not have the ability to see the problems the RCMP are having..........and would rather have your head in the sand and keep on repeating them.........

    fortunately a very large percentage of the Canadians want the RCMP to regain the respect they once had.........even if you don't .........

  12. by Regina  Gold Member
    Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:17 pm
    "diggerdick" said
    Judging by the last few years, and a constant stream of RCMP missteps...... lets just hope that these people don't start shooting each another.........

    Reading your usual posts, one would think you'd feel that was a good thing.obviously you do not have the ability to see the problems the RCMP are having..........and would rather have your head in the sand and keep on repeating them.........

    fortunately a very large percentage of the Canadians want the RCMP to regain the respect they once had.........even if you don't .........
    Blah...blah...blah. You're obviously oblivious to your usual cop hating posts and could care less how Canadians perceive them.

  13. by avatar SprCForr  Gold Member
    Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:12 am
    "DerbyX" said
    What? Do you mean that scene in True Lies where Jamie Lee Curtis drops the uzi and it falls down the stairs firing all the way on full auto taking out about 30 bad guys wasn't really possible? 8O

    I bet that scene on Naboo was faked too.


    The old SMG would do it.

  14. by DerbyX
    Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:20 am
    "SprCForr" said
    What? Do you mean that scene in True Lies where Jamie Lee Curtis drops the uzi and it falls down the stairs firing all the way on full auto taking out about 30 bad guys wasn't really possible? 8O

    I bet that scene on Naboo was faked too.


    The old SMG would do it.

    Which one? SMG stands for sub machine gun right. Do you mean a sten gun?

    Still its hard to believe that a gun was designed so that once the trigger is pressed the gun could be dropped and still continue firing. How could you control such a weapon?



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