 Half polled prefer peacekeeping-only soldiers Half of Canadians surveyed want their soldiers to return to a "peacekeeping only" role in the world, according to a public opinion poll conducted for National Defence.Commentsview comments in forum You need to be a member of CKA and be logged into the site, to comment on news. |
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That's fine and all, once we have peace we can keep. Getting peace sometimes means fighting for it.
"You end by saying you personally cannot envision that peace can ever be paved with military offensives. May I suggest to you that in many instances in history peace has been achieved exactly that way.
The gates of Auschwitz were not opened with peace talks. Holland was not liberated by peacekeepers and fascism was not defeated with a deft pen. Time and time again men and women in uniform have laid down their lives in just causes and in an effort to free others from oppression." -Rick Mercer
That Canadians cling to the image of their soldiers as peacekeepers is something that grates on the military and its supporters, who argue the era of standing in between warring factions largely ended with the collapse of the Soviet Union.
That and the fact that UN peacekeeping keeps a conflict dragging on about as often as it ever provides any solutions.
A lot of good peacekeeping and the UN did for Rwanda.
The main issue is that your adverage Canadian knows little or nothing about thier military, and is not willing to exspand their knowledge about the subject. Those that due usually pick an opinion that supports their own bias and cling onto it.
[quote="The Article":1f7s6pbo]That Canadians cling to the image of their soldiers as peacekeepers is something that grates on the military and its supporters, who argue the era of standing in between warring factions largely ended with the collapse of the Soviet Union.
That and the fact that UN peacekeeping keeps a conflict dragging on about as often as it ever provides any solutions.
A lot of good peacekeeping and the UN did for Rwanda.
Rwanada was an exception. Cyprus is an example of a successful Peace Keeping mission.
I disagree 100%. Cyprus is a prime example of peacekeeping perpetuating a conflict instead of ending one. Cyprus already had a peace agreement, remember? But the UN said "that's not good enough" and went in there to establish a new one. result? We're still there and the conflict that was resolved remains unresolved. In the same vein as Kashmir and the Golan Heights
Cyprus is not an example of peacekeeping done right, it's an example of peacekeeping keeping a conflict going long past it's due date.
Rwanda is not an 'exception', Rwanda is only one of many examples. How about Somalia?
Soldiers are not peacekeepers. If peacekeepers is what Canada wants then they need to send cops overseas when they want someone to maintain law and order.
THis goes right along with that post you made about how many Canadians were shocked to learn that Canadian soldiers are actually killing enemy soldiers.
I guess they figured we are there handing out cookies and juice.
What would be real interesting would be to see the cultural or racial cross-section of those that were polled.
I disagree 100%. Cyprus is a prime example of peacekeeping perpetuating a conflict instead of ending one. Cyprus already had a peace agreement, remember? But the UN said "that's not good enough" and went in there to establish a new one. result? We're still there and the conflict that was resolved remains unresolved. In the same vein as Kashmir and the Golan Heights
Cyprus is not an example of peacekeeping done right, it's an example of peacekeeping keeping a conflict going long past it's due date.
Rwanda is not an 'exception', Rwanda is only one of many examples. How about Somalia?
Bosnia ? UN safe areas...
UN interventions tend to gather irresistible momentum. If a mission cannot succeed in its original mandate because of the noncooperation of the local actors, new reasons are sought to justify the intervention. In Lebanon, as in Bosnia, the UN force is now principally kept in place to administer humanitarian aid--a mission it was not meant to perform but gradually assumed throughout the 1980s. Now supporters of the Lebanon operation argue that the UN force cannot be withdrawn because it has "been sucked into the economic and political fabric of the wider society in which it operates and of which it has become an integral part."(23) UNIFIL injects $45 million into southern Lebanon annually, and its supporters argue that its withdrawal would cause economic collapse and heightened conflict. UNIFIL is now part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Needed the Aussies to go sort that one out.
I disagree 100%. Cyprus is a prime example of peacekeeping perpetuating a conflict instead of ending one. Cyprus already had a peace agreement, remember? But the UN said "that's not good enough" and went in there to establish a new one. result? We're still there and the conflict that was resolved remains unresolved. In the same vein as Kashmir and the Golan Heights
Cyprus is not an example of peacekeeping done right, it's an example of peacekeeping keeping a conflict going long past it's due date.
Rwanda is not an 'exception', Rwanda is only one of many examples. How about Somalia?
I was thinking the same thing.
I think the main thing here is how the forces have been shown to Canadians. It's clear that anyone who knows anything about the forces knows their not cops or peace corps.
Past governments have continued to reduce the size while increasing the tempo of these perpetual UN missions. They can tout that we're flying the flag and working for peace but the reality is their degrading the forces from their actual purpose.
NONE of these UN missions is ever resolved. Even N/S Korea is still "active" and that's the best example.
I think that is one of the biggest problems with some Canadians. They've gotten to used to the Canadian Forces doing peacekeeping missions and so they think that's all they should be doing. A soldier cannot live on peacekeeping alone.
I think the problem is that people think soldiers will stop dieing if we only do peace keeping.