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Russia outlines Arctic force plan

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Russia outlines Arctic force plan


World | 208221 hits | Mar 27 9:47 am | Posted by: Hyack
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Russia has announced plans to set up a military force to protect its interests in the Arctic.

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  1. by avatar maldonsfecht
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:19 pm
    Why is there a picture of a German flag flying on the original link from the main site? Are the Soviets and the German Reich at it again? ;-)

    Seriously though, this is not good news for other Arctic nations... time to get the ball rolling on real solutions to the issue

  2. by Anonymous
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:38 pm
    Time to get some camp's up there and get drilling and prospecting!

  3. by avatar Proculation
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:49 pm
    Get the frozen nukes up there and bomb moscow. and pyongyang. and teheran.

  4. by DerbyX
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:54 pm
    "Proculation" said
    Get the frozen nukes up there and bomb moscow. and pyongyang. and teheran.


    What are "frozen nukes"? Are they better then deep-fried nukes? :D

  5. by avatar Akhenaten
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:56 pm
    Until Canada is ready to get over it's aversion to nuclear weapons we will never be taken seriously. Countries that have don't have to put up with this crap. They are negotiated with rather than dismissed out of hand. Canada is too large to be defended by conventional means imo and there has yet to be a nation in possession of a nuclear arsenal, no matter how modest, that has been invaded. Nuclear weapons are 100% defensive deterrent in nature. Plus it's actually a fair bit cheaper than the kind of (conventional) military we would actually need to competently defend and deter notions of attack.

    I can understand Canada�s position in the '50 and '60's about nuclear weapons and it was a noble pursuit at the time but we don't live in those times now and in a post cold war world where the nature of combat and conflict has completely changed it's time to reconsider our anti-nuclear stance.

    I would propose 25-50 medium yield warheads shell-gamed (a la 1960's) between 300 missiles. Naturally I would've proposed that 10-15 years ago though.

  6. by avatar Proculation
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:58 pm
    "DerbyX" said
    Get the frozen nukes up there and bomb moscow. and pyongyang. and teheran.


    What are "frozen nukes"? Are they better then deep-fried nukes? :D

    Well the ones that are doing nothing but freezing near a polar bear.

  7. by Anonymous
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:59 pm
    "DerbyX" said
    Get the frozen nukes up there and bomb moscow. and pyongyang. and teheran.


    What are "frozen nukes"? Are they better then deep-fried nukes? :D

    Code for the nuclear tipped harp seals.

  8. by DerbyX
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:00 pm
    Armed seals and polar bears? What are we, Narnia? :D

  9. by avatar Proculation
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:03 pm
    Come on. The thousands left from that stupid Cold-War-that-never-happened. It's time now.

  10. by Anonymous
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:05 pm
    "DerbyX" said
    Armed seals and polar bears? What are we, Narnia? :D


    And ten feet of ice!
    This is how you get your drinking water in the arctic.
    The tool used to chip that hole has a blade about 3 inches wide,the water was silted from glacial runoff and undrinkable. :(

  11. by avatar N_Fiddledog
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:20 pm
    "DerbyX" said

    What are "frozen nukes"?


    Do you watch South Park? Do you know what a S'Nuke is?

    Canada of course has the top secret Elizabeth May S'Nuke. We're anxious to use it.

  12. by DerbyX
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:25 pm
    "N_Fiddledog" said

    What are "frozen nukes"?


    Do you watch South Park? Do you know what a S'Nuke is?

    Canada of course has the top secret Elizabeth May S'Nuke. We're anxious to use it.

    South Park is a TV show. Don't recall S'Nukes from it though.

  13. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:29 pm
    "Akhenaten" said
    Until Canada is ready to get over it's aversion to nuclear weapons we will never be taken seriously. Countries that have don't have to put up with this crap. They are negotiated with rather than dismissed out of hand. Canada is too large to be defended by conventional means imo and there has yet to be a nation in possession of a nuclear arsenal, no matter how modest, that has been invaded. Nuclear weapons are 100% defensive deterrent in nature. Plus it's actually a fair bit cheaper than the kind of (conventional) military we would actually need to competently defend and deter notions of attack.

    I can understand Canada�s position in the '50 and '60's about nuclear weapons and it was a noble pursuit at the time but we don't live in those times now and in a post cold war world where the nature of combat and conflict has completely changed it's time to reconsider our anti-nuclear stance.

    I would propose 25-50 medium yield warheads shell-gamed (a la 1960's) between 300 missiles. Naturally I would've proposed that 10-15 years ago though.


    PDT_Armataz_01_34

    100% agree wiht you. Really, it's like shwoing up to a war armed with spears because you have some moral problem with guns. Nucelar technology is sixty or seventy years old now. Pretty soon, everyone is going to have nuclear weapons. Frickin' Pakistan has them. It's embarrassing.

  14. by DerbyX
    Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:31 pm
    "Zipperfish" said
    Until Canada is ready to get over it's aversion to nuclear weapons we will never be taken seriously. Countries that have don't have to put up with this crap. They are negotiated with rather than dismissed out of hand. Canada is too large to be defended by conventional means imo and there has yet to be a nation in possession of a nuclear arsenal, no matter how modest, that has been invaded. Nuclear weapons are 100% defensive deterrent in nature. Plus it's actually a fair bit cheaper than the kind of (conventional) military we would actually need to competently defend and deter notions of attack.

    I can understand Canada�s position in the '50 and '60's about nuclear weapons and it was a noble pursuit at the time but we don't live in those times now and in a post cold war world where the nature of combat and conflict has completely changed it's time to reconsider our anti-nuclear stance.

    I would propose 25-50 medium yield warheads shell-gamed (a la 1960's) between 300 missiles. Naturally I would've proposed that 10-15 years ago though.


    PDT_Armataz_01_34

    100% agree wiht you. Really, it's like shwoing up to a war armed with spears because you have some moral problem with guns. Nucelar technology is sixty or seventy years old now. Pretty soon, everyone is going to have nuclear weapons. Frickin' Pakistan has them. It's embarrassing.

    I'm not to sure arming every country in the world with nukes is particularily smart. The risk of them being used would just rise dramatically.



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