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Plane firm says it can save Canada millions

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Plane firm says it can save Canada millions


Business | 208122 hits | Dec 31 8:18 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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Victoria-based Viking Air believes it can save the Canadian government $1.5 billion and put as many as 350 people to work if it can convince the federal government that it has the right plan to upgrade and modernize the country's aging fleet of Buffalo se

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  1. by stokes
    Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:42 am
    If we give to the auto industry in the east (ontario)....might as well give to aerospace industries in the west ( BC and Alberta)...or the Aerospace industry in the east already get money (Bombardier in Quebec)?

  2. by avatar tritium
    Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:25 pm
    Viking Air is not greasing the right Political Pokets with kick backs... there's the problem.

    Give us a million, and we will give you $200,000 in donations towards your next election. :wink:

  3. by avatar SigPig
    Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:40 pm
    It's the same old problem that has existed with procurement. Paying too much for equipment simply because they are unwilling to think outside the box.

    I think the Sea King and the Buffalo are the perfect examples. I think that they could still be a viable aircraft but the money was not put into maintaining them properly and upgrading when necessary. Now they are falling apart and need to be replaced. The RAF still uses the Sea Kings for SAR work and they are safe because they are maintained properly.

    The same could happen with the Buffalos here it seems but they would rather pay billions for foreign aircraft.

  4. by avatar EyeBrock
    Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:45 pm
    "SigPig" said
    It's the same old problem that has existed with procurement. Paying too much for equipment simply because they are unwilling to think outside the box.

    I think the Sea King and the Buffalo are the perfect examples. I think that they could still be a viable aircraft but the money was not put into maintaining them properly and upgrading when necessary. Now they are falling apart and need to be replaced. The RAF still uses the Sea Kings for SAR work and they are safe because they are maintained properly.

    The same could happen with the Buffalos here it seems but they would rather pay billions for foreign aircraft.


    The RAF and RN Sea Kings were made under licence by Westland in the UK. The most recent versions are between 11 and 8 years old (depending where they were on the production run). By comparison the CF Sea Kings were built in the 1960's.

  5. by avatar SigPig
    Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:57 pm
    "EyeBrock" said

    The RAF and RN Sea Kings were made under licence by Westland in the UK. The most recent versions are between 11 and 8 years old (depending where they were on the production run). By comparison the CF Sea Kings were built in the 1960's.


    Granted, but proper maintenance and upgrading would have kept ours from becoming as unreliable as they are. For example, they could have been upgraded to the newer standard 10 yrs ago and probably would have meant that they wouldnt need to be replaced now. A much cheaper solution.

    Just a thought really that it seems that we could save money by properly funding equipment maintenance and mid life upgrades. Instead of flying them into the ground for 30-40 years then trying to quickly replace them because they have become unreliable and unable to fill missions because of maintenance issues.

  6. by avatar EyeBrock
    Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:18 pm
    I think there gets a stage in an aircrafts life when hours spent fixing them outweigh the resources available.
    The RAF C130 mk 1 and mk 3's got there about 10 years ago, RAF Tristars are on their last legs,as are the VC10's.

    These aircraft are going u/s on two thirds of the UK- Afghanistan runs, which makes the pongoes, who are going home after 6 months of fighting, well pissed off and rightly so.

    When I was a crewman on the RAF transport fleet I could never rely on getting back to base on time, but I did stay at some very cool places waiting for AOG spare parts for our particular u/s kite.

    I think the real issue is the CF is trying to maintain very old aircraft when it would make more sense to get new, more reliable aircraft. Procurement is mired in politics not operational requirements, so both the CF and RAF will continue to try patching up old kites.

    PS u attatched to the Riley's?

  7. by Anonymous
    Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:12 pm
    The thing with choppers is that every part is replaced after so many hours wether it needs it or not.Rotor changes used to be fun.

  8. by avatar SigPig
    Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:34 pm
    "EyeBrock" said
    I think there gets a stage in an aircrafts life when hours spent fixing them outweigh the resources available.
    The RAF C130 mk 1 and mk 3's got there about 10 years ago, RAF Tristars are on their last legs,as are the VC10's.

    These aircraft are going u/s on two thirds of the UK- Afghanistan runs, which makes the pongoes, who are going home after 6 months of fighting, well pissed off and rightly so.

    When I was a crewman on the RAF transport fleet I could never rely on getting back to base on time, but I did stay at some very cool places waiting for AOG spare parts for our particular u/s kite.

    I think the real issue is the CF is trying to maintain very old aircraft when it would make more sense to get new, more reliable aircraft. Procurement is mired in politics not operational requirements, so both the CF and RAF will continue to try patching up old kites.

    PS u attatched to the Riley's?


    No I'm not attached, but my unit works out of the same armouries as the Riley's.

  9. by avatar bootlegga
    Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:28 am
    This sounds like a good idea to me. Why send millions to a European company when we could get new planes built here in Canada?



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