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Canada doesn't 'really value sport'


Misc CDN | 206527 hits | Aug 15 2:27 pm | Posted by: Hyack
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Olympic medallist Silken Laumann challenges notion that nation has strong sports culture

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  1. by avatar C.M. Burns
    Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:10 pm
    Canada's non existent Olympic medal count symptomatic of societal decline

    by John Stokes

    Anyone who thinks that Canada's non existent medal count thus far, is irrelevant, is arguably sadly mistaken. Over 40 countries so far, have athletes who have obtained gold, silver or bronze medals.
    Canada's poor showing -- while at the same time fielding a large team -- is symptomatic of a societal decline. What do you mean? That is a question you might ask. This societal decline is evident in political elites at the highest levels of parliamentary government in Canada. These elites currently ignore such critical areas as worsening socio-economic and cultural-political conditions in Canada. These include homelessness; child poverty; chronic public health issues on aboriginal reservations; increasing joblessness; declining support to universal public healthcare, and other social policies; the destruction of world renowned national institutions like the Wheat Board; and the rapid sell out of other national institutions mostly to the United States; but also to other countries like China. Canada, which used to be ranked the best country in the world to live, according to the United Nation's Human Development Index during the Jean Chr�tien government of the late-1990's, has rapidly declined since then.

    The same group of elites that are giving Canada away to interests associated with U.S. President George W. Bush through the Security and Prosperity Partnership North American Union (SPP-NAU) agenda, is the same group of elites that have corrupted Canada's Olympic opportunities. Canada's prevailing elites, whose main objective is to exploit public resources for a self-serving agenda, demonstrate a total lack of national pride/commitment.

    Did you notice, for example, when CBC-TV on Tuesday, August 12, inappropriately cut away right in the middle of a baseball game between Canada and China, so that Ian Hanomansing could give some rather trivial commentary about the Olympic grounds, followed by haphazard commentary, that was accompanied by plenty of commercials. One of Canada�s few Olympic teams became a ritualized footnote in CBC-TV�s coverage, thereafter. At the same time, CBC a few days before, twice showed in its entirety, the same basketball game, with Team USA easily trouncing China.

    Canada's elites are currently also "going through the motions" in front of television cameras, while they balkanize and parcel out vast chunks of our nation to the U.S. military-industrial complex. What Canadians are witnessing in Beijing is the filtering of this mentality right down to Canada's so-called Olympic Committee management, and even in areas of mass-media Olympic coverage. Indeed, today's Canadian Olympic Committee is a true representation of broader political-bureaucratic entourage that is self-serving. Why facilitate athletic achievement in Canada that is competitive on the world stage in the Olympics, if you can use Canadian taxpayer's and corporate financial resources to support an �in-group�? Then, put out a message that achieving "Personal Best" is good enough for us Canadians, to legitimate the manifestation of mediocrity, as a result of political corruption.

    Alex Baumann

    Alex Baumann, had won gold medals for Canada at the Los Angeles 1984 Olympics in the 400-metre individual medley, setting a world record time of 4:17.41, and the 200-metre race, lowering the world mark to 2:01.42. The 400-metre gold was Canada's first in swimming since 1912.

    He was named Canada's male athlete of the year for 1984 and was made an Officer of the Order of Canada. He was also named as the Male World Swimmer of the Year by Swimming World magazine in the same year.

    After the 1984 Olympics, the two authored a book titled Swimming with Alex Baumann: A Program for Competitive and Recreational Swimmers.

    After a poor showing by Canada at the 2000 Olympics in Sydney, Baumann felt he had more to offer Canadian sport, and expressed interest in taking on the vacant leadership position at the Canadian Olympic Committee (COC). However, apparently the COC felt he "did not have the business background to handle the job." In other words, he was not one of their "blue eyed" boys, who had the right connections with the "in-group"

    Ultimately, Baumann was not offered the Canadian Olympic Committee position. This caused some controversy and criticism in Canada as many Canadian athletes and citizens felt he was the best choice for the job

    A number of foreign sports organizations felt the same way, and he was courted heavily by the English Institute of Sport, and by the Queensland Academy of Sport: ultimately accepting the position of executive director for the Queensland Academy of Sport in 2002. Baumann was singularly responsible for making Australia a power house in swimming, while Canada's swimming programme symptomatically declined.

    It was only after Baumann went abroad to Australia, and made a success of the Australian swimming programme, that Canada's elites through embarrassment sought in 2007 to use any of Baumann's services.


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  2. by Anonymous
    Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:25 pm
    I agree with Laumann 100% Canadians are spectators not participants.. except at doughnut eating and beer swilling. :lol:

  3. by avatar bootlegga
    Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:28 pm
    No thanks, sounds like total bullshit.

    I laugh when I hear people bitching that we haven't won any medals yet. Get back to me after the whole thing is over, after all the events have been completed, not just the few that the usual suspects (Russia, USA, China, Australia) dominate.

    I MIGHT start to believe this steaming pile if we don't win anything in rowing or on the track, where we have strong teams. But to complain that we haven't won anything in archery or judo or dead lifts or some other event is ridiculous. Why is anyone surprised that someone who is ranked 6th in the world finished 6th in their event. They should be happy that they set a Canadian record, not bemoan the fact that we didn't get a stupid medal.

  4. by avatar sandorski
    Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:56 pm
    Ya, wait for the end of the Olympics before drawing conclusions.

  5. by avatar robmik43
    Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:19 pm
    USA...300 million people sent 596 competitors.
    Mostly competitive in world rankings.
    Canada...30 million people sent 322 competitors.
    Mostly non-competitive in world rankings.
    Do the Math.
    The Math indicates we should have around 60 competitive
    athletes in world rankings. I think that's pretty close.
    It's not sending our "6th best in the world" athletes
    that bothers me...it's sending our "39th and 53rd best
    in the world" that bothers me.
    There are countries who left athletes at home, whose
    best times are better than our Canadian Olympians'
    best times.

  6. by avatar Bacardi4206
    Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:32 pm
    It's the bloody olympics, who the hell cares? Oh no we may not win a medal, our country is doomed. WHAT HAVE WE COME TOO!!! WHY HOD WHY!!! WHY DIDDN"T CANADA GET A MEDAL. OMG CANADA'S LIFE IS OVER!! WE ARE JUST GOING TO KILL OURSELVES!! WHY GOD WHY!!!

  7. by avatar robmik43
    Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:36 pm
    Bacardi...you paying for the chunk of bandwidth we are
    wasting with this thread ? :mrgreen:

  8. by avatar bootlegga
    Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:25 am
    "robmik43" said
    USA...300 million people sent 596 competitors.
    Mostly competitive in world rankings.
    Canada...30 million people sent 322 competitors.
    Mostly non-competitive in world rankings.
    Do the Math.
    The Math indicates we should have around 60 competitive
    athletes in world rankings. I think that's pretty close.
    It's not sending our "6th best in the world" athletes
    that bothers me...it's sending our "39th and 53rd best
    in the world" that bothers me.
    There are countries who left athletes at home, whose
    best times are better than our Canadian Olympians'
    best times.


    An excellent example of how Canada is doing is the Men's All Round Gymnastics competition. Canada hasn't had anyone capable of qualifying for this event since 1992. This year, TWO men did and both finished in the top 20. Pretty good IMHO.

    If it's not good enough for you, then be prepared to shell out more in taxes. The federal government only provides about 3% of Olympic athletes funding. Other countries provide far more, from 10% (USA) to 80% (China). Do the math...

  9. by Wally_Sconce
    Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:28 am
    It's a catch 22, the athletes say they need more money, but why in the hell would we give more money to a bunch of bums that aren't competitive in the Olympics?

  10. by avatar romanP
    Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:30 am
    I guess hockey and curling aren't sports :(

  11. by Wally_Sconce
    Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:32 am
    Hockey and Curling aren't sports.

    They are a way of life.

  12. by avatar bootlegga
    Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:34 am
    Here's a good read;


    Canadian team officials are preaching patience but for many back home it's hard to understand how tiny Togo, with just four athletes, won bronze while Canada's army of 331 was shut out the first seven days of the Olympic Games.

    In truth, there were only three solid medal possibilities for Canada the first week.

    All were at the pool: Alexandre Despatie and Arturo Miranda in synchronized diving, the men's freestyle relay team and Brent Hayden in the 100-metre freestyle. The divers and the relay team were both fifth and Hayden didn't make the final. Other athletes were longshots.

    What was missing for Canada this time was the out-of-the blue winner such as Lori Ann Muenzer racing to gold in track cycling four years ago or Simon Whitfield winning the triathlon on the second day of the Games in 2000.

    Upcoming, Canada has medal potential in diving, kayaking, mountain biking, taekwondo, trampoline and triathlon. Medals should come. But the bigger picture is bleaker.

    The world has not stood still in sports. And Canada jogged while other countries sprinted, with the bottom falling out of Canada's sport funding in the late 1980s and 1990s. After winning 22 medals in 1996, Canada dropped to 14 in 2000 and a dozen in 2004.

    It takes up to two decades to produce an Olympic medallist. The lack of seeds sown in Canada 20 years ago has resulted in a spotty crop in Beijing.

    The steroids scandal spawned by Ben Johnson in 1988 did not help amateur sports - or funding - at the time, but it seems that lack of a coherent game plan since then is the real problem.

    Changes to Canada's summer-sport system are underway, but have come too late to do much good in Beijing. The federal government committed in February to kicking in extra money over the next four years heading into the 2012 Games in London and beyond.

    Alex Baumann, a former Olympic swim champion for Canada, was lured back from the Australian sport system to head up Road To Excellence a year and a half ago. Road To Excellence is a plan modelled on Own The Podium, a five-year, $110-million strategy established in 2005 for winter sports to move Canada atop the medal standings at the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver.

    RTE will have $20 million in federal money to work with in 2008-09, $28 the following year and $36 million for each of the two years heading into 2012. But Canada has fallen so far behind other countries in summer sport that more modest goals of a top-16 result here and top 12 in London are the targets. Getting to the top five will be near impossible unless Canada starts matching the massive investment of a country like Australia.

    After winning five medals at the 1976 Games in Montreal, Australia made a concerted effort to become more competitive and developed the Australian Institute of Sport - an integrated system of sport facilities and programs headquartered in a suburb of Canberra.

    It wasn't until 1996 that Australia's efforts really began to bear fruit, and then the Aussies won 58 medals, including 16 gold, at their own Games of 2000.

    "Once you get the system rolling, it's much easier," Baumann said. "We're at the low level right now and it's going to take time."

    Australia, primarily a summer-sport country, has a budget of about $250 million for sport, said Baumann. The Aussies - with 20 medals after seven days - are worried about their count here, however, and are saying they'll need another $200 million to keep them among the world's elite, he added.

    In contrast, the Canadian government will spend $166 million on sport, both winter and summer, in 2008-09.

    The United States excels in both Winter and Summer Games, finishing first with 102 medals in Athens in 2004 and second in 2006 in Turin with 25.

    The U.S. Olympic Committee receives no continuous federal government funding, but pays for its athletes via corporate sponsors, individual donors and the investments made with surplus money from the 1984 Games in Los Angeles.

    Baumann has to distribute the money over more sports than Own The Podium does on the winter side. So he wants to funnel the cash into a select group of sports.

    "If that means trying to get it right with six, seven or eight sports, I would rather do that than try to go too wide," he said.

    National sport federations will make their pitch to Baumann in November for funding. Performances in Beijing will have bearing on his decisions.

    "Beijing is an indicator of what the gap is between us and our competitors," he said.

    The sports that produce the most medals - swimming and track and field - will get top consideration for money. Canadian swimmers have made eight finals here, so they're well set up for a piece of the RTE pie. A sport that hasn't produced medals, but has shown it could with an influx of money, could qualify.

    "We do need to take a look at strategic investments in some of those sports where we could put in $300,000 or $400,000 and get some results," Baumann explained. "It's probably more of a calculated risk.

    "Australia did it all the time, in archery for example, but we have to have the right information."

    More coaches of a higher calibre are Baumann's No. 1 priority. When he was executive director of the Queensland Academy of Sport, which was the regional component of the AIS, he had 26 full-time coaches across 22 sports for about 550 athletes.

    "If we don't have the expertise in Canada, then we need to go overseas and get them there, but we have to be careful that we don't say 'we're going to pay a coach a huge salary' and then not give him the tools to do the job," Baumann explained.

    His strategy also includes getting the athletes to more training camps and more international competitions, as well as increasing their support in the field of sport science and psychology.

    Baumann isn't interested in adding to bureaucracy. If a sport federation does get money, he wants people in place who know how to maximize it.

    "I've come from a system where often in the early days, so many services were pushed on sport, they didn't know which ones were the important ones," he said.

    Baumann wouldn't say if he thinks the current Canadian team is too big for what it has accomplished, but he's emphatic that "happy to be here"' doesn't cut it.

    "I do believe we shouldn't be here just to participate," Baumann said. "I've never believed in just making the national team and being happy and satisfied with that."

    "If our athletes are here, there should be a realistic chance to get to the podium."

    Despite the slow start, the Canadian Olympic Committee is sticking to its goal of a top-16 finish in the medal standings when the Games conclude Aug. 24.

    "It's never time to modify the medal projection until the gun goes at the end of the Games," committee president Michael Chambers said. "We're not even halfway into the Games right now and we're a second-half team."

    Softball shortstop Jennifer Salling of Port Coquitlam, B.C., says she and her teammates are oblivious to any criticism at home.

    "There's our bubble as we call it and we try to stay in that as much as we can," Salling said. "We don't read comments, we don't read forums, we don't read all the websites, nothing like that."

    Added Whitehorse weightlifter Jeane Lassen: "You don't want to get brought down by negativity. We all want to be that one to win the first medal because that's pretty awesome but we're all doing the best we can."

    Despatie, from Laval, Que., is optimistic the medals will come.

    "Don't give up on us," he said.

    Edmonton swimmer Annamay Pierse, who was sixth in Friday's 200-metre breaststroke, says worrying about medals won't help her win one.

    "You can't think about medals because then it throws you off," she said. "You have to think 'OK, what am I going to do that is going to get me to that wall and get me there as fast as I can go?"'


    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/indepth/teamca ... struggle_1

    So do the math. We can spend $250 million a year (like the Aussies) for 50 medals or $20 million for 10-15 medals. Which do you want?

  13. by Anonymous
    Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:35 am
    "romanP" said
    I guess hockey and curling aren't sports :(


    Curling? about as much as checkers or lawn darts. You can't play a real sport while you're full of Rye and chicken wings. :P

  14. by avatar travior
    Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:36 am
    If there was more money available there would be more facilities and opportunities and more hope for potential olympians.

    One fundamental problem is the lack of physical eduaction at the high school level. My wife came from a small town in Sask. She said that during and just after her high school years, everything except volleyball was eliminated from the school because of over-reactive parents crying "that's dangerous!"

    If the kids are not exposed to the athletic competition in their growing years how do we ever expect to develop olympic-level competitors?



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