Michael Wolfe was sentenced to 15 years in prison Tuesday after he plead guilty to hate crime charges after he was caught placing a slab of bacon the doorstep of a mosque in Florida.
Whoa is this even true? What the guy did was wrong but FFS when the punishment for vandalism, covered under the blanket of a "hate" crime becomes a worse felony sentence than some second degree murder convictions your justice system is pretty much screwed.
I wonder who the idiot judge was that handed out this disproportionate sentence?
This guy definitely needs to get a new lawyer and appeal this ridiculous sentence because, given the sentence his lawyer must have been a Muslim or Loyd from Dumb and Dumber
Besides if real, this sentence sets a very strong precedence which will likely mean that, given the Muslims propensity for being perpetually offended by anything non Islamic, anyone not bowing to their cult will now be subject to the same type of idiotic punishments while common sense and justice go on holiday.
Did you ever hear about that similar one in Britain?
Same offense - bacon on a Mosque door.
But there's this thing prison administrations of the politically connected do from time to time when the perp gets thrown in for crimes against Islam. They put the guy in the cell block with the most fanatical, proven violent, jihadi nutworms. Just ask Tommy Robinson, they did it to him too.
Unfortunately, this bacon guy wasn't as smart, tough, or well connected as Tommy. He got beat to death.
So there's a way of looking at it where you could say he got Life.
It does seem a bit much. But on the other hand, the purpose of a hate crime sentencing modified is to send the kind of message the original hate crime was supposed to.
a few thoughts on the subject: the sentence will hold up because its a plea deal. the defendant and his lawyer agreed to the sentence. the defendant did not simply place bacon on the door handle, he broke into the place armed with a machete and trashed the place. that is burglary. that alone could have gotten him a life sentence. http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-la ... -laws.html
what this man did amounts to terrorism, plain and simple. he is trying to intimidate a whole group of people. he wants them to be afraid at their house of worship. he is attempting to control their behavior through fear. this is no different than if he were hanging nooses in front of black churches. would you think 15 years is too long if he were doing that? i don't. fuck him. i am glad he got 15 years. if he has that much free time to be terrorizing people, than he has plenty of time to hang out in prison. let him know what fear is, see how he likes it.
"Freakinoldguy" said Whoa is this even true? What the guy did was wrong but FFS when the punishment for vandalism, covered under the blanket of a "hate" crime becomes a worse felony sentence than some second degree murder convictions your justice system is pretty much screwed.
I wonder who the idiot judge was that handed out this disproportionate sentence?
This guy definitely needs to get a new lawyer and appeal this ridiculous sentence because, given the sentence his lawyer must have been a Muslim or Loyd from Dumb and Dumber
Besides if real, this sentence sets a very strong precedence which will likely mean that, given the Muslims propensity for being perpetually offended by anything non Islamic, anyone not bowing to their cult will now be subject to the same type of idiotic punishments while common sense and justice go on holiday.
Talking about disproportionate sentences, how about this one, a Canadian citizen was sentenced to 160 years for a spate of non-violent burglaries in North Carolina.
The absurdity of the sentence is unbelievable. The guy was a career criminal but even by American standards 160 years is insane and makes the bacon king's 15 look like a sunday outing.
It's good to see he finally got out but even the 30 years he spent in prison might be considered far to long considering that some murderers get alot less in those jurisdictions.
But, given the insanity we've seen in these two sentences I think it's time for some Southern states to look at mandatory sentencing so they can take away these judges ability to go off the reservation and sentence criminals to lengthy prison sentences that in no way shape or form fit their crimes, just so they can placate their own personal demons.
"Freakinoldguy" said The absurdity of the sentence is unbelievable. The guy was a career criminal but even by American standards 160 years is insane and makes the bacon king's 15 look like a sunday outing.
It's good to see he finally got out but even the 30 years he spent in prison might be considered far to long considering that some murderers get alot less in those jurisdictions.
But, given the insanity we've seen in these two sentences I think it's time for some Southern states to look at mandatory sentencing so they can take away these judges ability to go off the reservation and sentence criminals to lengthy prison sentences that in no way shape or form fit their crimes, just so they can placate their own personal demons.
did you even look at the link that i posted in my post? http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-la ... -laws.html all one has to do is use a motor vehicle to cause damage or inflict $1000 in damages during a burglary to receive a life sentence. breaking expensive stained glass windows in a mosque quickly adds up to $1000. if they do not commit assault and battery or use a dangerous weapon they qualify for a 15 year sentence. it is the law, read it for yourself. the judge is not going off the reservation. he is going by established laws that are on the books. instead of complaining about southern judges,it would make more sense for ne'er-do-wells and douchebags to stay out of southern states where they actually give a shit about law and order. you don't want to hear some american whining about their second amendment rights when they get caught carrying firearms into canada do you? i know i don't. i also do not want to hear some american whining about getting his ass caned in singapore when he gets caught being a douche spray painting cars there. likewise for a canadian breaking the law in the states. don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
I wonder who the idiot judge was that handed out this disproportionate sentence?
This guy definitely needs to get a new lawyer and appeal this ridiculous sentence because, given the sentence his lawyer must have been a Muslim or Loyd from Dumb and Dumber
Besides if real, this sentence sets a very strong precedence which will likely mean that, given the Muslims propensity for being perpetually offended by anything non Islamic, anyone not bowing to their cult will now be subject to the same type of idiotic punishments while common sense and justice go on holiday.
Same offense - bacon on a Mosque door.
But there's this thing prison administrations of the politically connected do from time to time when the perp gets thrown in for crimes against Islam. They put the guy in the cell block with the most fanatical, proven violent, jihadi nutworms. Just ask Tommy Robinson, they did it to him too.
Unfortunately, this bacon guy wasn't as smart, tough, or well connected as Tommy. He got beat to death.
So there's a way of looking at it where you could say he got Life.
May as well burn it down is the message that sends.
But 15 years for this... seriously.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-la ... -laws.html
what this man did amounts to terrorism, plain and simple. he is trying to intimidate a whole group of people. he wants them to be afraid at their house of worship. he is attempting to control their behavior through fear. this is no different than if he were hanging nooses in front of black churches. would you think 15 years is too long if he were doing that? i don't. fuck him. i am glad he got 15 years. if he has that much free time to be terrorizing people, than he has plenty of time to hang out in prison. let him know what fear is, see how he likes it.
Bit of a double standard from the 'do the crime, you serve your time' gang?
how? he did the crime, now he is going to do the time. where is the double standard?
Whoa is this even true? What the guy did was wrong but FFS when the punishment for vandalism, covered under the blanket of a "hate" crime becomes a worse felony sentence than some second degree murder convictions your justice system is pretty much screwed.
I wonder who the idiot judge was that handed out this disproportionate sentence?
This guy definitely needs to get a new lawyer and appeal this ridiculous sentence because, given the sentence his lawyer must have been a Muslim or Loyd from Dumb and Dumber
Besides if real, this sentence sets a very strong precedence which will likely mean that, given the Muslims propensity for being perpetually offended by anything non Islamic, anyone not bowing to their cult will now be subject to the same type of idiotic punishments while common sense and justice go on holiday.
Talking about disproportionate sentences, how about this one, a Canadian citizen was sentenced to 160 years for a spate of non-violent burglaries in North Carolina.
http://www.canadaka.net/link.php?id=104302
It's good to see he finally got out but even the 30 years he spent in prison might be considered far to long considering that some murderers get alot less in those jurisdictions.
But, given the insanity we've seen in these two sentences I think it's time for some Southern states to look at mandatory sentencing so they can take away these judges ability to go off the reservation and sentence criminals to lengthy prison sentences that in no way shape or form fit their crimes, just so they can placate their own personal demons.
The absurdity of the sentence is unbelievable. The guy was a career criminal but even by American standards 160 years is insane and makes the bacon king's 15 look like a sunday outing.
It's good to see he finally got out but even the 30 years he spent in prison might be considered far to long considering that some murderers get alot less in those jurisdictions.
But, given the insanity we've seen in these two sentences I think it's time for some Southern states to look at mandatory sentencing so they can take away these judges ability to go off the reservation and sentence criminals to lengthy prison sentences that in no way shape or form fit their crimes, just so they can placate their own personal demons.
did you even look at the link that i posted in my post?
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-la ... -laws.html
all one has to do is use a motor vehicle to cause damage or inflict $1000 in damages during a burglary to receive a life sentence. breaking expensive stained glass windows in a mosque quickly adds up to $1000. if they do not commit assault and battery or use a dangerous weapon they qualify for a 15 year sentence. it is the law, read it for yourself. the judge is not going off the reservation. he is going by established laws that are on the books. instead of complaining about southern judges,it would make more sense for ne'er-do-wells and douchebags to stay out of southern states where they actually give a shit about law and order. you don't want to hear some american whining about their second amendment rights when they get caught carrying firearms into canada do you? i know i don't. i also do not want to hear some american whining about getting his ass caned in singapore when he gets caught being a douche spray painting cars there. likewise for a canadian breaking the law in the states. don't do the crime if you can't do the time.