[Newsbot]

Title: Court decision puts veil over women's rights
Category: Provincial Politics
Posted By: Bodah
Date: 2010-10-18 14:42:07
Canadian

[Gunnair]

Un-be-lievable!

[KorbenDeck]

Wonderful. Maybe one day Canada will get a political party that actually stands for something and brings in laws (and amendments to the Charter) that stop this crap.

[Freakinoldguy]

Welcome to Canada, the worlds whipping boy, please ensure that when you depart the aircraft, you take all your, former countries bigotry, hate, racial tension and religous zealotry with you.

We like to thank you for flying the former Air Canada, now known as Ramadan Airlines, named in honour of our newest citizens and future masters.

[andyt]

$1:

There’s more. Ontario’s highest court says veiled women can ask for an order to clear men out of the courtroom — any men in the public gallery, any male court staff, even her opponent’s lawyer, even the judge himself — in return for taking off her veil. It’s paragraph 85 of the ruling.

What if she's the defendant and her lawyer is male - he has to remove himself. What if it's a jury trials - will only women be selected for that jury? If the trial is judge only, and the judge can't be there to observe the testimony, how can he make a ruling?

The Sun is actually overplaying this a bit - the judges said the judge in the case has to balance the woman's rights and the defendant's. But in the extreme case it will be just what the quote says above.

[canuckns]

andyt andyt:

What if she's the defendant and her lawyer is male - he has to remove himself. What if it's a jury trials - will only women be selected for that jury? If the trial is judge only, and the judge can't be there to observe the testimony, how can he make a ruling?

On that note what if I'm the accused. Aren't I granted the right to face my accuser.

All I can see that will come of this is a hell of a lot of appeals.

[Brenda]

This is ludicrous. Ridiculous. I am all for women's right, but this is so over the top. Can we now start wearing hats in court too? Can men put on fake beards now?

[QBC]

No, but you can wear this, but only if you can prove you're in the Groucho Marx religion...

[andyt]

QBC QBC:

No, but you can wear this, but only if you can prove you're in the Groucho Marx religion...

"Yes sir, your honor. I've walked this way for forty years now."

[kenmore]

Canada and its judicial system are wimps and we are going to pay for it! trust me!

[Zipperfish]

Consider the source of the article. Sorry, Levant--one minute you're crying for the freedom to express yourself, the next you're trying to restrict that freedom for others.

[andyt]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Consider the source of the article. Sorry, Levant--one minute you're crying for the freedom to express yourself, the next you're trying to restrict that freedom for others.

Did Levant write this. No wonder it was over the top. People here accuse the Sun of being a leftist rag, but if they have Levant writing for them, that can't be right.

Still, he's not really wrong is he - if a judge decides a woman has a legitimate case for keeping on the bag unless the court is cleared of men, that would seem like a travesty of justice to me.

[Zipperfish]

andyt andyt:

Did Levant write this. No wonder it was over the top. People here accuse the Sun of being a leftist rag, but if they have Levant writing for them, that can't be right.

Still, he's not really wrong is he - if a judge decides a woman has a legitimate case for keeping on the bag unless the court is cleared of men, that would seem like a travesty of justice to me.

Clear the courtroom of men--I wouldn't agree with that. But people should be able to wear what they feel like wearing. I mean, here's Levant saying he wants the freedom to be able to draw cartoons of Mohammed doing a goat or whatever, but when it comes to a woman who wears clothes he doesn't approve of, all of a sudden he wants the heavy hand of the state to come down and stop it.

[kenmore]

No people should not be able to wear what they want. In the courts and every where else in Canada. Nobody should be able to cover their face!

[andyt]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

But people should be able to wear what they feel like wearing.

Absolutely, unless required otherwise. For identification, and in court they should have to show their face. I agree with the idea that a person's face should be open to scrutiny during testimony. Otherwise, let everybody who wants to wear a bag over their head - makes it easier to lie. In fact don't they often ask witnesses to identify the accused? What if the accused is wearing the bag? (Of course then she probably would have been wearing it during the crime, so maybe that's not much of an example.)