It's funny how silly kids can be, escpecially the older ones.
raydan
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:20 pm
My dad served "drinks" to my 12 year old cousin once. Absolutely no alcool in them but you could have sworn he was drunk.
Like they say in the article... The Placebo Effect.
2Cdo
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:09 pm
I think sites like Rabble are getting people stoned. I read some of the comments from their posters and I felt dumber for about a half hour or so!
andyt
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:28 pm
Brainwave entrainment is a fact. Binaural beats are about the weakest stimulus you can get. Using flashing lights to cause the following response from the brain is much more powerful.
But binaural beats are inherently dissociative - playing a different sound left and right puts you brain in a mildly dissociated state. It's nothing like drugs tho, not nearly as powerful.
One problem with all this is habituation - keep presenting the same stimulus to the brain, and it begins to tune it out. Experiments with experienced Zen meditators did not show this effect, they treated each tone as if it was a new experience. Which is the whole point of mindfulness meditation.
The story goes to far in poopooing the whole field, but certain idoser is not representative of something that's going be more than a novelty, or, as has been pointed out a placebo.
But I love how materialist scientists love to say "it's just placebo." Placebo is a powerful effect, with anti-depressants for instance it's been shown that they are not much better than placebo. Placebo shows mind over matter, something materialism can not explain. I think it's an incredible concept, and one that should be studied more, in how to use it effectively.
Dragom
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:43 pm
I've heard good arguments for the best psychiatric drugs being placebo's.
RUEZ
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:44 pm
It's funny how stupid some people can be.
robotman5
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:32 pm
seriously?
ShepherdsDog
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:18 pm
so seizures, brought on by flashing lights now count as a mind altering experience??
Dragom
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:33 pm
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:
so seizures, brought on by flashing lights now count as a mind altering experience??
A seizure is inherently mind altering, being a recreational mind altering experience is kinda new though.
ShepherdsDog
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:08 pm
It alters the mind, but not in an intentional or pleasant way that these goofs are hoping for.
sandorski
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:36 pm
Shh, they could be doing much worse. Maybe we should start a "Just Say No to I-Dosing" campaign?
Guy_Fawkes
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:51 am
I cant wait for the Deprivation Tank bars to spring up in the cities. "You wanna really get high? No put away the coke, what ya gotta do is put on a blind fold, ear plugs and lie in the tub with warm water dude! That shit will fuck you up!"
andyt
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:15 am
Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:
I cant wait for the Deprivation Tank bars to spring up in the cities. "You wanna really get high? No put away the coke, what ya gotta do is put on a blind fold, ear plugs and lie in the tub with warm water dude! That shit will fuck you up!"
I tried it, but it didn't do much for me. It's relaxing, is all.
BartSimpson
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:39 pm
$1:
Still, stories about i-dosing have cropped up around the world in recent weeks, all of them leading back to the same Oklahoma City suburb -- Mustang -- where i-dosing first made headlines.