[Newsbot]

Title: Cleaning oil-soaked Gulf Coast wetlands may be impossible
Category: Environmental
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2010-05-22 22:16:42

[tritium]

Great, next time you start you car to go for a drive, remember the Gulf of Mexico mess..

Time to ditch the dirty oil and go Hydogen.

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/norway-hynor-project.htm

[wildrosegirl]

I can't believe these guys aren't all stocking boat loads of Gator. Won't help the main spill, but it's the answer to their "impossible" clean up missions along shorelines. Obviously they're consulting their "professional panel of experts".
Morons.

[GreenTiger]

tritium tritium:

Great, next time you start you car to go for a drive, remember the Gulf of Mexico mess..

Time to ditch the dirty oil and go Hydogen.

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/norway-hynor-project.htm

Yes Indeed!!!!


The sooner we can get off the use of oil the better. This is one of the main reason to do so, the other reason is Energy Independence. Dealing with Canadians for Albertan oil is one thing, grovelling to the EDIT BY MOD in the mid-East is something else.

That oil spill pollution will be around for quite a long time. When you attempt to fully contemplate the damage to the environment you can't but get physically sick.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

$1:

Also Saturday, BP told federal regulators it plans to continue using a contentious chemical dispersant, despite orders from the Environmental Protection Agency to look for less toxic alternatives. BP said in a letter to the EPA that Corexit 9500 “remains the best option for subsea application.”

IN other words, BP told the Fed to go fuck themselves. Takes some serious balls to create an environmental disaster and then get all uppity about it.

[GreenTiger]

Yes,
BP has balls the size of church bells.

[Bodah]

Something like 75 000 barrels of oil a day is spewing out of this mess, horrible. All could of been avoided but human greed reared its ugly head once again. Time to start throwing people in jail for a long time when this shit happens.

[tritium]

I am trying to find a map that shows the flow of oil from the Gulf oof Mexico, around the tip of Florida and up the east coast to the shores of Canada's Maritime provinces, and to the Artic.

This will not only effect the fisheries off the Gulf Coast, but also Canada's fisheries.

Also, as the oil hit's the artic, they CNN says it will heat up the oceans and increase glacier melting.

[tritium]

Oh here it is...

http://maker.geocommons.com/maps/14810

[BartSimpson]

Amazingly, during the world wars no end of oil tankers were sunk and I don't recall even one single document on the lingering effects of oil spills from the world wars.

Give it a few years and this oil spill will be forgotten.

[andyt]

tritium tritium:

Great, next time you start you car to go for a drive, remember the Gulf of Mexico mess..

Time to ditch the dirty oil and go Hydogen.

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/norway-hynor-project.htm

Well I'm being a good boy. I'm down to using my car about one day a week, bike/transit the other times. Sanctimony is it's own reward.

To get Hydrogen we need energy - lots of electricity generated by natural gas, and even hydro has it's own problems. And electrolysis is not the main method of production:

$1:

Hydrogen production is usually the term for the industrial methods for generating hydrogen. Currently the dominant technology for direct production is steam reforming from hydrocarbons.

No such thing as a free lunch. We have to reduce our use of energy in the first place, and the best way to do that is reduce the number of people sucking on the energy teat.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

First off for Tritium. The flow extensions going up the eastern sea board. Is that actually oil that's been tracked or an extrapolation of where it could go based on currents?

And Bart, the problem is, this disaster would be like having all those oil tankers sunk in the Gulf of Mexico.

[andyt]

I also wonder what the size of the average WW2 tanker was compared to now. Plus. when you've got bombs dropping on your head, you worry about that more than destroyed coast lands. But, as the man said "fat, stupid and covered in oil is no way to go thru life, son."

[tritium]

andyt andyt:

No such thing as a free lunch. We have to reduce our use of energy in the first place, and the best way to do that is reduce the number of people sucking on the energy teat.

Shit, I'm too old.

First thing that came to mind when you stated reduce the number of people sucking that energy was Logan's Run.

A dystopia-ageist future society's mandatory death sentence for all those turning 21 ...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074812/

O.K. so how do we reduce the number of people andyt? The world population doubled from 3 billion to 6 billion on the last few decades and isn't slowing down any time soon..

[andyt]

tritium tritium:

andyt andyt:

No such thing as a free lunch. We have to reduce our use of energy in the first place, and the best way to do that is reduce the number of people sucking on the energy teat.

Shit, I'm too old.

First thing that came to mind when you stated reduce the number of people sucking that energy was Logan's Run.

A dystopia-ageist future society's mandatory death sentence for all those turning 21 ...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074812/

O.K. so how do we reduce the number of people andyt? The world population doubled from 3 billion to 6 billion on the last few decades and isn't slowing down any time soon..

I think we have two choices. One we use our heads, ensure that the birthrate comes down in all countries, and figure out a sustainable economic system that isn't based on continual growth. Or, two, our economic system, or nature, or likely both, do it for us, where we have a population collapse. The second option is still great for the surivors (unless we really screw things up). As I've posted here before, the plague reduced Europe's population by a quarter. That actually brought prosperity and advancement, as periodic famines became a thing of the past, and the value the remaining workers started that whole worth of the individual nonsense that the neocons are so dead set against.