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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:34 am
.....speechless..where do I start?
Maybe the first lawsuit or criminal charge against the makers when some real life woman gets raped by a player of this game.
Disgusting!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:46 am
The Japanese have developed this whole sub-culture that revolves around raping young, round-eye girls.
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:03 am
The 'chikan' (subway molester) problem got so bad on the line between Tokyo and Yokohama that JR had to institute female only train cars.
It's totally common to find comics with tentacled aliens/demons raping school girls, bestiality, etc right next to the most popular mainstream manga in stores. When I lived in Japan, I saw on many occasions businessmen and other adults reading graphic manga on the train, right next to teenagers, grandmothers, and everyone else.
The Japanese look at sex far differently than most Westerners do. To most of them, it isn't a sin in the way most Westerners feel it is, it is a normal bodily function. Their religion, Shinto, does not have the concept of sin or shame, and as such, they aren't ashamed of it the way many Americans are.
I'm not saying that I agree with the game, but it's not our right to say what is wrong or not in their culture. To do so is ethnocentric.
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:04 am
maybe now they will get off of GTA's back rockstar can go back to the more over-the-top violence of the GTA3 series. and away from the more tame though wonderfully renderered gta4
I WANNA DECAPITATE PEOPLE WITH A GUNSHOT!
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:41 am
bootlegga bootlegga: The 'chikan' (subway molester) problem got so bad on the line between Tokyo and Yokohama that JR had to institute female only train cars.
The Japanese look at sex far differently than most Westerners do. To most of them, it isn't a sin in the way most Westerners feel it is, it is a normal bodily function. Their religion, Shinto, does not have the concept of sin or shame, and as such, they aren't ashamed of it the way many Americans are. The Japanese, or Japanese men? The fact that they instituted female only subway cars due to groping problems would highlight that some of these attitudes aren't exactly normal if a large portion of the population feels offended or violated. That being said, RapeLay isn't a new game, actually it's quite old, and isn't exactly a secret among anime/hentai/manga circles, and if anybody is TRULY surprised at something like this hasn't really noticed some of the creepy shit that's normal in Japan
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:27 pm
Oh Japan, what will you think of next? I'm gonna go with Raping Robots.
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:40 pm
commanderkai commanderkai: bootlegga bootlegga: The 'chikan' (subway molester) problem got so bad on the line between Tokyo and Yokohama that JR had to institute female only train cars.
The Japanese look at sex far differently than most Westerners do. To most of them, it isn't a sin in the way most Westerners feel it is, it is a normal bodily function. Their religion, Shinto, does not have the concept of sin or shame, and as such, they aren't ashamed of it the way many Americans are. The Japanese, or Japanese men? The fact that they instituted female only subway cars due to groping problems would highlight that some of these attitudes aren't exactly normal if a large portion of the population feels offended or violated. That being said, RapeLay isn't a new game, actually it's quite old, and isn't exactly a secret among anime/hentai/manga circles, and if anybody is TRULY surprised at something like this hasn't really noticed some of the creepy shit that's normal in Japan Japanese men are of course the gropers (hence the female only trains), but Japanese in general have a far more liberal view towards sex than most Westerners. 'Chikans' are a fringe element of Japanese sexual society, just like some of the kinkier stuff is here. Things like cosplay are far more common than chikans. Keep in mind, that gropers on the subway are not a Japanese only phenomenon. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A9609C8B63Japanese people in general are more willing to talk about sex too, without any of the 'Christian shame' we have here. Topics like masturbation, oral sex, costume play, etc are talked about with ease. I've never checked the stats, but it was my impression while living in Japan that extra-marital affairs are far more common (hubby nailing his secretary in the evening and wifey banging someone else in the afternoon) than they are in North America (those love hotels are awfully busy all day long).
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 2:15 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: The 'chikan' (subway molester) problem got so bad on the line between Tokyo and Yokohama that JR had to institute female only train cars.
It's totally common to find comics with tentacled aliens/demons raping school girls, bestiality, etc right next to the most popular mainstream manga in stores. When I lived in Japan, I saw on many occasions businessmen and other adults reading graphic manga on the train, right next to teenagers, grandmothers, and everyone else.
The Japanese look at sex far differently than most Westerners do. To most of them, it isn't a sin in the way most Westerners feel it is, it is a normal bodily function. Their religion, Shinto, does not have the concept of sin or shame, and as such, they aren't ashamed of it the way many Americans are.
I'm not saying that I agree with the game, but it's not our right to say what is wrong or not in their culture. To do so is ethnocentric. Given their obsession with rape, all-in-all, I'm glad they don't have an armed forces. Rape of Nanking and all that. I've got no issue with nudity and sex not being considered a sin or shameful. Rape however, has precious little to do with sex. It makes others suffer for the rest of their lives, so I do not tolerate it.
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:07 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: (The Japanese) religion, Shinto, does not have the concept of sin or shame Uh, whut? To the Japanese shame is ever-present in their lives. It's what drives them to work 20 hour days, six days a week. It's what drives students to commit suicide when they get an A instead of an A+. It's what drives executives to commit suicide when they get fired or when their companies go bankrupt. They call it "losing face" but we simply call it shame. Back in the 1980's when I was recovering from various knee surgeries I spent two years in Hachioji with my brother who taught English at the Tama English Academy (Now called International Language Services) and I got pretty good at manipulating the Japanese sense of shame. I was forever being called 'shojo' behind my back because of my red hair and whenever that happened I would turn and say "Nandeska?" in a tone which translated as "WTF did you say?" The apologies would flow as the person who called me a red-haired pirate/demon found themselves humbled and humiliated as rude in front of a gaijing (foreigner).
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:00 pm
Why Is CNN Talking About Rapelay?$1: UN Rape Rates per 100,000
Canada: 78.08 Australia: 77.79 USA: 32.05 Sweden: 24.47 UK: 16.23 France: 14.36 S. Korea: 12.98 Germany: 9.12 Russia: 4.78 Taiwan: 4.08 Japan: 1.78
We're #1!!!
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:29 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: bootlegga bootlegga: (The Japanese) religion, Shinto, does not have the concept of sin or shame Uh, whut? To the Japanese shame is ever-present in their lives. It's what drives them to work 20 hour days, six days a week. It's what drives students to commit suicide when they get an A instead of an A+. It's what drives executives to commit suicide when they get fired or when their companies go bankrupt. They call it "losing face" but we simply call it shame. Back in the 1980's when I was recovering from various knee surgeries I spent two years in Hachioji with my brother who taught English at the Tama English Academy (Now called International Language Services) and I got pretty good at manipulating the Japanese sense of shame. I was forever being called 'shojo' behind my back because of my red hair and whenever that happened I would turn and say "Nandeska?" in a tone which translated as "WTF did you say?" The apologies would flow as the person who called me a red-haired pirate/demon found themselves humbled and humiliated as rude in front of a gaijing (foreigner). Losing face and being ashamed about sex are two very different animals. I guess I should have used guilt instead of shame if I wanted to be clearer. Many Westerners (Christians mostly, but others as well) have taught their children that sex is a dirty, shameful act, whereas the Japanese do not view it the same way.
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:06 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish: bootlegga bootlegga: The 'chikan' (subway molester) problem got so bad on the line between Tokyo and Yokohama that JR had to institute female only train cars.
It's totally common to find comics with tentacled aliens/demons raping school girls, bestiality, etc right next to the most popular mainstream manga in stores. When I lived in Japan, I saw on many occasions businessmen and other adults reading graphic manga on the train, right next to teenagers, grandmothers, and everyone else.
The Japanese look at sex far differently than most Westerners do. To most of them, it isn't a sin in the way most Westerners feel it is, it is a normal bodily function. Their religion, Shinto, does not have the concept of sin or shame, and as such, they aren't ashamed of it the way many Americans are.
I'm not saying that I agree with the game, but it's not our right to say what is wrong or not in their culture. To do so is ethnocentric. Given their obsession with rape, all-in-all, I'm glad they don't have an armed forces. Rape of Nanking and all that. I've got no issue with nudity and sex not being considered a sin or shameful. Rape however, has precious little to do with sex. It makes others suffer for the rest of their lives, so I do not tolerate it. Like I said, I disagreed with the game itself, but then again it could be argued that most Japanese porn is far more degrading/mysgonistic than Western porn (at least that's the opinion of several Canadian/American women I know). And they do have armed forces, the most powerful in Asia (excepting the US I would argue). They have more modern planes, ships and tanks than the Chinese, and a better space program and level of technology to back it up. If the Japanese ever decide that they NEED nukes for their own protection, it wouldn't take them longer than a year (3-6 months is more likely) to produce them. Despite the fact that they spend a mere 1% of their GDP on the Self-Defence Forces, that amounts to $50+ billion annually. For example, their capital expenditures budget (what they spend on new weapons systems each year) was more than the ENTIRE Canadian defence budget for most of the 90s.
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:28 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: I'm not saying that I agree with the game, but it's not our right to say what is wrong or not in their culture. To do so is ethnocentric.
The game is viral so it could be over here as well some time, or now even. Here where we are not into groping women and raping them on the streets, not mater what age.
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