[Newsbot]

Title: Canada to bolster Arctic claim with shipping alerts
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2009-09-24 16:35:28
Canadian

[gonavy47]

Canadian Shipping Alert: "Oh look! More ships passing through our waters that we can't do anything about because we don't have nuclear-powered submarines!"

[MAC1767]

what a joke untill they put a base up there, and patrol it, wave the flag, and tell everyone else to stay the fuck out, a "shipping alert" what a joke

[bootlegga]

No doubt. Until we have the ability to patrol up there year round, putting out shipping alerts doesn't mean squat. I wonder when the last time was that anyone heeded Malyasian or Indonesian shipping alerts...

[martin14]

Jesus thats weak, we seriously can't do any better this ?

[BartSimpson]

gonavy47 gonavy47:

Canadian Shipping Alert: "Oh look! More ships passing through our waters that we can't do anything about because we don't have nuclear-powered submarines!"

Concur. To effectively patrol the Arctic you need nuc boats. There's just no substitute.

[Akhenaten]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

gonavy47 gonavy47:

Canadian Shipping Alert: "Oh look! More ships passing through our waters that we can't do anything about because we don't have nuclear-powered submarines!"

Concur. To effectively patrol the Arctic you need nuc boats. There's just no substitute.

To effectively defend our borders we need nuclear deterrent. Just no substitute.

[EyeBrock]

I don't think we need nukes but I'll go along with a couple of heavily armed nuclear ice-breakers backed up with 4 ice capable hunter-killer subs.

It makes more sense to look at domestic defence once the Afghan mission is over.

[Winnipegger]

Ok, I'm going to post just the one post about my same old ideas.

Why would we need nuclear submarines? They are clandestine; no one sees them until they attack. No one will respect them unless you use them at least once. Do you really want to shoot a heavy weight torpedo to sink a ship trespassing in Canadian waters? It is more effective to use a more visible military presence. Besides, aircraft are both more visible and faster. So build a full military base at Resolute Bay, with a forward base capable of hosting an entire wing of CF-18 fighter jets, or whatever their replacement may be. Then also develop guidance software for the Mark 48 heavy weight torpedo to work under the ice. Also develop a procedure to drop a dumb bomb to blow a hole in the ice, then have the plane fly around to drop a torpedo through that hole. You can take out any submarine that way.

Simple anti-ship missiles carried on CF-18 fighter jets would do great damage to any surface shipping; believe me any commercial captain would shake in his boots at the sight of a modern fighter jet armed with any of the modern anti-ship missiles coming directly toward him.

Add to that a sophisticated surveillance net capable of detecting any trespassing ships: satellites (RadarSat and RadarSat2), UAVs, patrol aircraft, and yes even underwater microphones (passive sonar). And, yes, relocate some of our Aurora patrol aircraft to Resolute Bay.

Coast guard icebreakers can carry helicopters to carry inspectors and port pilots, civilians capable of dealing with trespassing ships who cooperate with authorities. The aforementioned military would make a formidable backup to the front-line coast guard.

[EyeBrock]

Winnipegger Winnipegger:

Ok, I'm going to post just the one post about my same old ideas.

Why would we need nuclear submarines? They are clandestine; no one sees them until they attack. No one will respect them unless you use them at least once. Do you really want to shoot a heavy weight torpedo to sink a ship trespassing in Canadian waters? It is more effective to use a more visible military presence. Besides, aircraft are both more visible and faster. So build a full military base at Resolute Bay, with a forward base capable of hosting an entire wing of CF-18 fighter jets, or whatever their replacement may be. Then also develop guidance software for the Mark 48 heavy weight torpedo to work under the ice. Also develop a procedure to drop a dumb bomb to blow a hole in the ice, then have the plane fly around to drop a torpedo through that hole. You can take out any submarine that way.

Simple anti-ship missiles carried on CF-18 fighter jets would do great damage to any surface shipping; believe me any commercial captain would shake in his boots at the sight of a modern fighter jet armed with any of the modern anti-ship missiles coming directly toward him.

Add to that a sophisticated surveillance net capable of detecting any trespassing ships: satellites (RadarSat and RadarSat2), UAVs, patrol aircraft, and yes even underwater microphones (passive sonar). And, yes, relocate some of our Aurora patrol aircraft to Resolute Bay.

Coast guard icebreakers can carry helicopters to carry inspectors and port pilots, civilians capable of dealing with trespassing ships who cooperate with authorities. The aforementioned military would make a formidable backup to the front-line coast guard.

Yep, you really are a geek.

[PluggyRug]

Winnipegger Winnipegger:

Ok, I'm going to post just the one post about my same old ideas.

Why would we need nuclear submarines? They are clandestine; no one sees them until they attack. No one will respect them unless you use them at least once. Do you really want to shoot a heavy weight torpedo to sink a ship trespassing in Canadian waters? It is more effective to use a more visible military presence. Besides, aircraft are both more visible and faster. So build a full military base at Resolute Bay, with a forward base capable of hosting an entire wing of CF-18 fighter jets, or whatever their replacement may be. Then also develop guidance software for the Mark 48 heavy weight torpedo to work under the ice. Also develop a procedure to drop a dumb bomb to blow a hole in the ice, then have the plane fly around to drop a torpedo through that hole. You can take out any submarine that way.

Simple anti-ship missiles carried on CF-18 fighter jets would do great damage to any surface shipping; believe me any commercial captain would shake in his boots at the sight of a modern fighter jet armed with any of the modern anti-ship missiles coming directly toward him.

Add to that a sophisticated surveillance net capable of detecting any trespassing ships: satellites (RadarSat and RadarSat2), UAVs, patrol aircraft, and yes even underwater microphones (passive sonar). And, yes, relocate some of our Aurora patrol aircraft to Resolute Bay.

Coast guard icebreakers can carry helicopters to carry inspectors and port pilots, civilians capable of dealing with trespassing ships who cooperate with authorities. The aforementioned military would make a formidable backup to the front-line coast guard.

A rather large pipe dream, don't ya think?

[Lemmy]

Winnipegger Winnipegger:

Ok, I'm going to post just the one post about my same old ideas.

Why would we need nuclear submarines? They are clandestine; no one sees them until they attack. No one will respect them unless you use them at least once. Do you really want to shoot a heavy weight torpedo to sink a ship trespassing in Canadian waters? It is more effective to use a more visible military presence. Besides, aircraft are both more visible and faster. So build a full military base at Resolute Bay, with a forward base capable of hosting an entire wing of CF-18 fighter jets, or whatever their replacement may be. Then also develop guidance software for the Mark 48 heavy weight torpedo to work under the ice. Also develop a procedure to drop a dumb bomb to blow a hole in the ice, then have the plane fly around to drop a torpedo through that hole. You can take out any submarine that way.

It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who likes to get high and watch The Hunt for Red October.

[EyeBrock]

Getting high and watching a military movie. Errr, kind of inconsistent. Military guys don't get high. They just get drunk.

Obvious civilian.

[stratos]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Getting high and watching a military movie. Errr, kind of inconsistent. Military guys don't get high. They just get drunk.

Obvious civilian.

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[OldChum]

This is totally the wrong way to do it TAX the fuckers going in and out that will discourage them .