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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:39 pm
 


Title: Drunk driver as dangerous offender?
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Posted By: stokes
Date: 2009-09-06 12:27:11
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:39 pm
 


People who commit a crime while under the influence of any substance should get a double sentence. Instead of the other way around like it is now


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:56 pm
 


I hope they throw the book at that piece of shit, and any other drunk driver that hurts or kills someone.


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19 Impaired convictions? Seriously? This guy should have been designated "Dangerous" and incarcerated indefinitely ages ago.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:29 pm
 


Yep, I hope this gets some attention and becomes an issue for the next election.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:56 pm
 


ABout time, maybe just maybe it will deter others from driving drunk.
I am of the opinion that if you drive drunk, just once you should not be allowed to drive EVER again. How many more must die for the sake of stupidity?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:00 pm
 


There's a difference between 19 DRUNK offenses and a homicide and someone who drove with 0.10 (like me). I do not consider me like a dangerous offender.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:06 pm
 


$1:
There's a difference between 19 DRUNK offenses and a homicide and someone who drove with 0.10
It isn't just the 'drunk offenses'. He's injured and hurt/killed people.

The Article The Article:
But in a Valleyfield, Que., courtroom this Wednesday, a judge could set a legal precedent that would make it easier for repeat drunk drivers who kill people to be locked away under that designation.

Roger Walsh pleaded guilty to a 19th impaired driving charge last December - this time after he mowed down Anee Khudaverdian in October. The wheelchair-bound mother was out with her dog, on her 47th birthday.

While awaiting the decision from Quebec court Judge Michel Mercier, the victim's sister said it's a historic opportunity to make roads safer.



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:08 pm
 


Proculation Proculation:
There's a difference between 19 DRUNK offenses and a homicide and someone who drove with 0.10 (like me). I do not consider me like a dangerous offender.


While I agree in principal to your statement, but heres my argument.
The guy who gets caught 19 times and finally kills someone
The guy who decides to drive drunk just once and kills someone
Theres no middle ground.
I don't say that we should label all who get caught as dangerous offenders, I do say that if someone is caught even one time they should never be able to legally drive again, they have lost that right in my eyes (possibly I'm biased due to a loss of a friend when I was a teen)


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:19 pm
 


Choban Choban:
Proculation Proculation:
There's a difference between 19 DRUNK offenses and a homicide and someone who drove with 0.10 (like me). I do not consider me like a dangerous offender.


While I agree in principal to your statement, but heres my argument.
The guy who gets caught 19 times and finally kills someone
The guy who decides to drive drunk just once and kills someone
Theres no middle ground.
I don't say that we should label all who get caught as dangerous offenders, I do say that if someone is caught even one time they should never be able to legally drive again, they have lost that right in my eyes (possibly I'm biased due to a loss of a friend when I was a teen)


But seriously, there's a huge difference between driving drunk and driving between 0.08-0.10.

Personnaly, I want worse sentences for people like him or people driving drunk. But, they need to differentiate 0.10 and 0.30. ATM, it's the same offence.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:22 pm
 


Proculation Proculation:
There's a difference between 19 DRUNK offenses and a homicide and someone who drove with 0.10 (like me). I do not consider me like a dangerous offender.



I do.

A reading of .1 means you shouldn't have been driving, PERIOD. IF you had caused injury to someone, what's the difference? Just that you didn’t do it as often?

With the publicity about impaired driving being so mainstream, I can’t believe anyone still does it.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:26 pm
 


Proculation Proculation:
Choban Choban:
Proculation Proculation:
There's a difference between 19 DRUNK offenses and a homicide and someone who drove with 0.10 (like me). I do not consider me like a dangerous offender.


While I agree in principal to your statement, but heres my argument.
The guy who gets caught 19 times and finally kills someone
The guy who decides to drive drunk just once and kills someone
Theres no middle ground.
I don't say that we should label all who get caught as dangerous offenders, I do say that if someone is caught even one time they should never be able to legally drive again, they have lost that right in my eyes (possibly I'm biased due to a loss of a friend when I was a teen)


But seriously, there's a huge difference between driving drunk and driving between 0.08-0.10.

Personnaly, I want worse sentences for people like him or people driving drunk. But, they need to differentiate 0.10 and 0.30. ATM, it's the same offence.


.08 is the legal limit, that is the point where science has deemed that someone is impared enough that their reations, thought process and decisions are not up to par, I want no one on the roads with a level of .08.
I myself will not drive after 2 drinks, I'll take a cab, call a friend or my wife or take a bus, it's not worth it. The kid that killed my friend tested at .09


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:29 pm
 


poquas poquas:
Proculation Proculation:
There's a difference between 19 DRUNK offenses and a homicide and someone who drove with 0.10 (like me). I do not consider me like a dangerous offender.



I do.

A reading of .1 means you shouldn't have been driving, PERIOD. IF you had caused injury to someone, what's the difference? Just that you didn’t do it as often?

With the publicity about impaired driving being so mainstream, I can’t believe anyone still does it.


Sorry but 0.10 is not a lot. People do not have testing kit with them. Driving while having a slurred speech and zig zaging, that's much worse than driving after taking some glass of wine (that's what happened to me) with some friends. That guy had the same offence than me even if his was much worse. That's a problem.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:31 pm
 


$1:
.08 is the legal limit, that is the point where science has deemed that someone is impared enough that their reations, thought process and decisions are not up to par, I want no one on the roads with a level of .08.
I myself will not drive after 2 drinks, I'll take a cab, call a friend or my wife or take a bus, it's not worth it. The kid that killed my friend tested at .09


I do not say that I didnt deserve it. I say that driving WAY OVER the limit should be worse. I'm not in the same category than him. Never. But what I had says so.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:34 pm
 


Proculation Proculation:
Sorry but 0.10 is not a lot. People do not have testing kit with them. Driving while having a slurred speech and zig zaging, that's much worse than driving after taking some glass of wine (that's what happened to me) with some friends. That guy had the same offence than me even if his was much worse. That's a problem.


That's even worse. Attempting to excuse it. Drunk driving offenses should be so severe that people just don't try.


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