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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:52 am
 


Title: US prints money to fight recession
Category: Uncle Sam
Posted By: tritium
Date: 2009-03-22 08:44:24


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Hyperinflation could be experienced in the United States sending it economy into an even worse shape than it already is.

As I stated before on this forum, "Obama is to the economy as 9.11 was."

Sad thing is Obama may very well drag Canada's economy down with it unless we change our economic policy and return to a more protectionist country.

Quit sending jobs overseas and buy Canadian made good first.

Canada 1st, the rest of the world last. :rock:





PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:57 am
 


Protectionest? You mean like Obama's doing?

I cant figure you out sometimes.

Obviously you have an extreme hatred for the Pres.


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ziggy ziggy:
Protectionest? You mean like Obama's doing?

I cant figure you out sometimes.

Obviously you have an extreme hatred for the Pres.


aaagh! Not 100% protectionism, but more fair trade.

Cheap goods made in Asia and south America put Canadian's out of work. We need more restrictions on those kinds of imports and exports of Canadian manufacturing jobs.

I'm not for Free Trade, but FAIR TRADE!! Some people call that protectionism, others call it just being realistic and being a nationalist. :wink:





PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:03 am
 


so you want to legislate what and where people buy their good's?

Obviously they dont care or want cheaper goods because the consumers are the one's doing the buying.
Even the union boys shop at walmart.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:19 am
 


ziggy ziggy:
so you want to legislate what and where people buy their good's?


No people can buy goods from where ever they desire, but it's the Governments duty is to tax goods being imported from low-wage countries that force employees to work under unsafe conditions and long hours. (or have no choice)

We are promoting countries to abuse the poor every time we buy cheaply made products.

If they want to sell goods in Canada, they should be forced to provide a standard wage and safe working conditions in their country.

It just seems a little selfish or greedy that Canadian's should enjoy a standard of life and not care about the conditions others are put through to provide cheap products for us.

At the same time we must also look to protect our manufacturing base from these companies that abuse this unbalanced trade situation, by making it expensive to import into Canada... again protecting Canadian jobs.

There is noting wrong with promoting buy Canadian made products 1st, it's just part of being a proud Canadian. (the same reason I would think you are on this web forum, because "Canada Kicks Ass.")


http://www.wakeupwalmart.com/facts/#Wal ... ld%20Labor

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Wal-Mart violates Child Labor Laws

An internal Wal-Mart audit found "extensive violations of child-labor laws and state regulations requiring time for breaks and meals." [New York Times, 1/13/04]

One week of time records from 25,000 employees in July 2000 found 1,371 instances of minors working too late, during school hours, or for too many hours in a day. There were 60,767 missed breaks and 15,705 lost meal times. [New York Times, 1/13/04]

Wal-Mart agreed to pay $135,540 to settle child labor violation charges in January 2005 for allegedly breaking child labor laws in 24 incidents. [Wall Street Journal, 2/12/05]

Connecticut Governor M. Jodi Rell announced that the state found 11 violations in three Wal-Mart stores in the state and that 337 minors worked at the company's 32 Connecticut stores from 2003 to 2005. The probe came after the Labor Department in February said the retailer had similar violations nationwide. [Bloomberg News, 6/22/05]

Wal-Mart has also been fined $205,650 for 1,436 violations of child labor laws in Maine for the period 1995 to 1998. The settlement represents the largest number of citations as well as the largest fine ever issued by the Maine Department of Labor for child labor violations. [Bureau of Business Practice News]

Wal-Mart & Undocumented Immigrants

In 2003, federal authorities arrested 250 undocumented immigrants who were employed by janitor contracting services and hired by Wal-Mart in 21 states. Many of the janitors - from Mexico, Russia, Mongolia, Poland and a host of other nations - worked seven days or nights a week without overtime pay or injury compensation. Those who worked nights were often locked in the store until the morning. [Wall Street Journal, 11/5/05, CNN Money, "Wal-Mart pays $11m over illegal labor", 2005]

In March 2005, Wal-Mart agreed to pay $11 million to settle federal allegations it used undocumented immigrants to clean its stores. This was the largest immigration related fine ever levied. [CNN Money, "Wal-Mart pays $11m over illegal labor", 2005 and Wall Street Journal, 11/5/05]

Federal immigration officers, in November 2005, arrested 125 undocumented workers in a raid at a Wal-Mart distribution center under construction north of Philadelphia. The workers from Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Mexico were detained Thursday at the site. [Associated Press, 11/18/05]





PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:23 am
 


Dont blame wal mart for wanting to make a return for their investors who could be you,checked your rrsp's lately?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:30 am
 


ziggy ziggy:
Dont blame wal mart for wanting to make a return for their investors who could be you,checked your rrsp's lately?


Wow Zigmiester!! Same attitude that has put use where we are today. Worried about the bottom dollar, regardless of who get's screwed in the long run. :roll:

Sorry don't buy RRSP's, I have better places to put my money.


Redneck retirement plan - "The Scratchcard Lottery" :lol: :lol: No just kidding.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:32 am
 


tritium tritium:
ziggy ziggy:
so you want to legislate what and where people buy their good's?


No people can buy goods from where ever they desire, but it's the Governments duty is to tax goods being imported from low-wage countries that force employees to work under unsafe conditions and long hours. (or have no choice)

We are promoting countries to abuse the poor every time we buy cheaply made products.

If they want to sell goods in Canada, they should be forced to provide a standard wage and safe working conditions in their country.

It just seems a little selfish or greedy that Canadian's should enjoy a standard of life and not care about the conditions others are put through to provide cheap products for us.

At the same time we must also look to protect our manufacturing base from these companies that abuse this unbalanced trade situation, by making it expensive to import into Canada... again protecting Canadian jobs.

There is noting wrong with promoting buy Canadian made products 1st, it's just part of being a proud Canadian. (the same reason I would think you are on this web forum, because "Canada Kicks Ass.")


Are you then prepared to have our already inflated government introduce price controls to protect the consumer that is being corralled into buying domestic from being gouged to support bloated unions and greedy execs?


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:57 am
 


Gunnair Gunnair:
Are you then prepared to have our already inflated government introduce price controls to protect the consumer that is being corralled into buying domestic from being gouged to support bloated unions and greedy execs?



o.k. Gunnair, you have a good point. But how is protecting Canadian jobs from countries expoliting their workers a bad thing?

It's sorta like the Cultural protectionism that Canada has in force now, but just to protect our economy against low wage countries that abuse their workers or do not provide work force standards. (safety, wages, etc.)

If Canada has to compete on the world market, shouldn't Canadian businesses at least have a level playing field to compete against...

The United States already has protectionist measures in place against Canada, beef and cattle trade, timber and so on, and that list may grow as the U.S. economy weakens further.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... 5/20090315


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How many times these last couple years were there recalls for mercury or other deadly toxins found in kids toys. All these toys came from outside Canada. They came from factories that probably don't have any safety codes or quality control. If we could make a tougher inspection process or make the manufactors have a tougher universal inspection process fine. I'm just tired of waiting for the recall list and going through everything I've bought to see if my kids are gonna get sick.
These products should be checked before they leave. Not after my kids have played with it for a couple weeks.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:09 am
 


And as for the printing extra money, didn't Russia try that? All I recall about that is something about a wheelbarrel full of money to buy a loaf of bread.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:36 am
 


Blue_goose80 Blue_goose80:
And as for the printing extra money, didn't Russia try that? All I recall about that is something about a wheelbarrel full of money to buy a loaf of bread.



lol, that was Germany in the 20's.
It didnt get quite that bad in Russia.

However, an extra trillion from nowhere can lead
to the same kind of trouble. you can bet the last thing
the fed worries about right now is inflation.

However, they ignore it at their own peril.

If you have US dollars, get rid of them.
They'll worth wiping your ass in a few years.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:28 am
 


martin14 martin14:
If you have US dollars, get rid of them.
They'll worth wiping your ass in a few years.


I hope our dollar rises against the USD. Great for cross border shopping. :wink:

So Martin, are you saying invest in Euros??





PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:45 am
 


tritium tritium:
martin14 martin14:
If you have US dollars, get rid of them.
They'll worth wiping your ass in a few years.


I hope our dollar rises against the USD. Great for cross border shopping. :wink:

So Martin, are you saying invest in Euros??


So much for your rant on buying local then. :roll:


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