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<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=33121" target="_blank">Deep fruit freeze devastates Okanagan orchards</a> (click to view)

<strong>Category:</strong> <a href="/news/topic/20-environmental" target="_blank">Environmental</a>
<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=mtbr" target="_blank">mtbr</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2008-05-07 07:00:05
<strong>Canadian</strong>

[mtbr]

a little more of that "global warming"

[ridenrain]

All because you won't give up you're truck and ride a bicycle.

[Brenda]

What I am surprised about, is that they didn't water their orchards before the freeze hit, and kept water it overnight. That would have put the buds in the freezer, and not so much would have been lost. It was not an unpredicted cold front...

[RUEZ]

Brenda Brenda:

What I am surprised about, is that they didn't water their orchards before the freeze hit, and kept water it overnight. That would have put the buds in the freezer, and not so much would have been lost. It was not an unpredicted cold front...

How would that help? Ice is ice, whether it be in the form of frost or ice on the branches.

[mtbr]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Brenda Brenda:

What I am surprised about, is that they didn't water their orchards before the freeze hit, and kept water it overnight. That would have put the buds in the freezer, and not so much would have been lost. It was not an unpredicted cold front...

How would that help? Ice is ice, whether it be in the form of frost or ice on the branches.

Freezing the buds at 0 C would have helped prevent damage, but the magnitude of this deep freeze was probably underestimated.

[Blue_Nose]

Farmers spray fruit trees before a frost because the cold is "used up" on freezing the water on the fruit, instead of the fruit itself.

It doesn't work for a "deep freeze", though.

[Brenda]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Brenda Brenda:

What I am surprised about, is that they didn't water their orchards before the freeze hit, and kept water it overnight. That would have put the buds in the freezer, and not so much would have been lost. It was not an unpredicted cold front...

How would that help? Ice is ice, whether it be in the form of frost or ice on the branches.

That is a big difference.

When you spray water, it goes into the deepfreeze instantly, which protects it from the wind and too cold temps, when you don't it is taken down by the weather. I don't know how to explain it, but it is what they do in Spain and France every year with the grapes, and in Holland with the fruit trees.

[RUEZ]

mtbr mtbr:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Brenda Brenda:

What I am surprised about, is that they didn't water their orchards before the freeze hit, and kept water it overnight. That would have put the buds in the freezer, and not so much would have been lost. It was not an unpredicted cold front...

How would that help? Ice is ice, whether it be in the form of frost or ice on the branches.

Freezing the buds at 0 C would have helped prevent damage, but the magnitude of this deep freeze was probably underestimated.

Like Blue_nose posted, farmers will spray fruit to save it during a snap freeze, but I doubt it would save the buds of a tree. If it would I'm sure they would have tried it, it's not like the guys running these orchards are inexperienced.

[stemmer]

But this simply can not be true... Al Gore is telling us the planet is warming up... Surely this is more mis-information by the big oil shills...!!!!

Of course I'm being sarcastic...

[BartSimpson]

Maybe Al Gore should do a few more lecture tours to help warm up the earth.

[Brenda]

RUEZ RUEZ:

mtbr mtbr:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Brenda Brenda:

What I am surprised about, is that they didn't water their orchards before the freeze hit, and kept water it overnight. That would have put the buds in the freezer, and not so much would have been lost. It was not an unpredicted cold front...

How would that help? Ice is ice, whether it be in the form of frost or ice on the branches.

Freezing the buds at 0 C would have helped prevent damage, but the magnitude of this deep freeze was probably underestimated.

Like Blue_nose posted, farmers will spray fruit to save it during a snap freeze, but I doubt it would save the buds of a tree. If it would I'm sure they would have tried it, it's not like the guys running these orchards are inexperienced.

Or maybe lots of them did, but a couple underestimated it, and are now complaining?

[Brenda]

Since when is -6 deep freeze?

[BartSimpson]

Brenda Brenda:

Since when is -6 deep freeze?

That's just how alarmists typically define weather conditions.

-6C is a "deep freeze".

and 20C is "alarmingly comfortable".

[Zipperfish]

Tying single weather events as indicative of claimte is like pointing to a single cigarette and saying that it was the one that caused the cancer.