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<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=26200" target="_blank">Killer gets life in jail: Raped and beat to death 13-year-old</a> (click to view)

<strong>Category:</strong> <a href="/news/topic/18-law--order" target="_blank">Law & Order</a>
<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=Alta_redneck" target="_blank">Alta_redneck</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2007-10-19 07:09:46
<strong>Canadian</strong>

[DrCaleb]

I was very happy to hear that this sick SOB was going away to Adult Prison for the very Adult crime he committed.

[Brenda]

Good. 1 down, still a few to go.

[Lavics]

( handed him an automatic life term with no eligibility for parole for 10 years.)

Imagine that..10 years..damn this country sux.

[DerbyX]

Lavics Lavics:

( handed him an automatic life term with no eligibility for parole for 10 years.)

Imagine that..10 years..damn this country sux.

"eligibility" not "automatic".

In addition. despite all the hand-wringing, bemoaning, and general whiny attitude that bitterly complains about our country whenever we have a criminal committing a horrible crime and getting less punishment then you personally believe you should remember that despite all that we live in a very just and safe society.

You would think that crime would be rampant here because they only get slaps on the wrist (if) caught but it isn't.

Why is that? Perhaps our justice system does work.

[Brenda]

Life in my former home country means 25 years, from which you have to spend 2/3 in jail, that means automatically out within 15 years. He wouldn't have gotten life anyway

He wouldn't have been tried as an adult, because he was no adult at the time, so he would have gone to some juvenile detention place, if they had a spot available (which might be a problem, because places like that are also used to put kids in who are just hard to raise, but no criminals yet), treated like a prince, and be out when he would be 21.

The system you have here ain't that bad...

[Freakinoldguy]

$1:

"eligibility" not "automatic".

A good point but I won't hold my breath, given the parole boards propensity for granting early release to a majority of violent criminals.

In this case the problem isn't with the sentencing, its the public perception that early release is almost a given for violent crime. especially when it involves a young offender, whether he has been tried in adult court or not.

[Alta_redneck]

lily lily:

Do you want people like him serving their entire sentences? That's what we all wanted every time Karla Homolka was up for parole, and look what happened when she was finally released after serving her full sentence - we ll complained that she was free to go with no restrictions.

I thought we were complaining about the sweet heart deal she got before her lawyer handed over the video's that would have put her away the same as her hubby.

[Freakinoldguy]

lily lily:

Do you want people like him serving their entire sentences? That's what we all wanted every time Karla Homolka was up for parole, and look what happened when she was finally released after serving her full sentence - we ll complained that she was free to go with no restrictions.

Despite the misconception that once you do your time your free as a bird, the government has numerous ways of protecting society when a criminal is released at the end of his sentence.

A prime example is Paul Callow, the balcony rapist, who despite finishing out his complete sentence was given a set of conditions that he had to follow upon release. Apparently he broke one of those conditions and was rearrested recently.

Another way the government can keep people like this in jail is to have them declared a dangerous offender ala Paul Bernardo, Clifford Olson etc etc. It's much more difficult to do this but it's probably the most effective way to keep these types out of society.

The only problem with these methods is that they are open to charter challenges and we all know that when the charter is invoked the criminals usually end up on top.

[DerbyX]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

$1:

"eligibility" not "automatic".

A good point but I won't hold my breath, given the parole boards propensity for granting early release to a majority of violent criminals.

In this case the problem isn't with the sentencing, its the public perception that early release is almost a given for violent crime. especially when it involves a young offender, whether he has been tried in adult court or not.

Unfortunately the pubic is always wrong in these matters because all they ever hear about are the ones the press reports in order to garner the outrage factor and sell papers.

Do some people get far less then they deserve? Absolutely. The above cited criminals deserve death as far as I am concerned.

Our system is and always has been designed to minimize false imprisonments and with rehabilitation in mind. That means that we will always have people getting away with stuff and getting less then they deserve.

Why is it that so many people with a hard-on for brutal justice never ever understand that all those countries that practice it are the same ones they want to bomb?

There is a conection.

How a society treats its pets, prisoners, sick, and its elderly are a direct reflection on them and speaks to its character more then anything else.

[Lavics]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

$1:

"eligibility" not "automatic".

Unfortunately the pubic is always wrong in these matters because all they ever hear about are the ones the press reports in order to garner the outrage factor and sell papers.

Im not too sure of the way your putting this. "Always wrong" is a bit far fetched. As far as the public reading any papers or press reports, anything that involves someone taking a life of someone else should be given life automatic withough parole, no matter of the history or incident in which this occured.

[DerbyX]

Lavics Lavics:

Im not too sure of the way your putting this. "Always wrong" is a bit far fetched. As far as the public reading any papers or press reports, anything that involves someone taking a life of someone else should be given life automatic withough parole, no matter of the history or incident in which this occured.

Self-defence? Accidental? Crime of passion (ie walking in on your wife banging your best friend)? How about killing the guy who sexually abused your son?

How about a soldier in the field?

How about ...........

Understand? The public (as a whole) is reactionist and stupid. There are alot of people who served time for crimes they didn't commit that would have been strung up long before their innocence was discouvered.

We cannot under any circumstance make justice a black and white, äll murders must be executed endeavour. That would be a grave misjustice.

[Blue_Nose]

Let's hope this is a step towards revising the YCJA.