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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:36 am
 


llama66 llama66:
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life after oil isn't anytime soon, unless you do not like rubber, pharmaceuticals, ooo everything you BUY that comes by freight. I agree oil won't be around forever (not because of it's scarcity) but likely technology will improve to the point where we will just use less of it. But that won't stop you from using mobiles, plastics, etc etc.. even if we get much better at recycling and eliminating or reducing single use plastics etc.

Let me clarify, life after oil patch oil. The rest of the world will still produce oil, but if we can't get our oil to market, Alberta Oil and the industries that support it will die.


Yup and when the rest of the worlds oil is expended we'll be the only player in town which is what the Americans want and this might be the reason.

Strategic oil reserves. Considering that at the moment war machines run on oil not "green" energy, countries with the largest oil reserves stand the best chance of surviving and winning any future wars. So, given their subtle under the table politiciking to keep our oil in the ground it becomes quite apparent that they consider us just another part of the their strategic oil reserve which, is why they definitely don't want us sending our oil to their potential enemies or using up what they think they have secured away for future conflicts and to run their country.


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Connected with some friends at Encana last night. They said everyone there is either terrified or tossing out as many resumes as they can. They all see the writing on the wall. The lucky ones will end up at Cenovus (Encana's oil wing) but most of them are expecting the severances to be issued starting in late December.

Probably more jobs will be lost at Encana then there will be at SNC-Lavalin and Bombardier combined. Or when one of the Big Three shuts down a plant in Ontario. Those jobs matter though, and get a national panic started and immediate reaction by the government when they're threatened. Jobs out here though? Tough titty for you, earth-rapers.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:12 pm
 


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it becomes quite apparent that they consider us just another part of the their strategic oil reserve which, is why they definitely don't want us sending our oil to their potential enemies or using up what they think they have secured away for future conflicts and to run their country.

Monroe doctrine in action.


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^100% wrong

1) imagine the economic diversity we could have built in this province over the last forty years if $15 to 20 billion per year weren't being taken from us and given to those who despise us.


That money was still paid out in federal taxes. Ottawa would probably have found something else to do with it.

I saw comments on the Calgary Herald's website that Encana has been moving in this direction since 2013. Here's what an interesting article in the Financial Post had to say:

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For Encana, the move is a logical shift since Doug Suttles, a Texan, took over as chief executive officer in 2013. Suttles soon set about selling Canadian assets and building a major position in the U.S. through the purchase of Permian driller Athlon Energy and the acquisition of Freeport-McMoRan Inc.’s Eagle Ford shale assets. The company moved into the Scoop and Stack shale fields in Oklahoma, the Bakken region of North Dakota and the Uinta play in Utah with its purchase of Newfield Exploration, which closed in February.

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Encana’s “exciting and engaging” new name isn’t meant to denigrate Canada or its policies and politics, he added, and that the recent federal election, in which the pro-energy Conservative Party failed to unseat Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, wasn’t a factor in the move.

“We don’t want people to see this as some negative reflection on Canada,” Suttles said in an interview with BNN Bloomberg television.



Those are the words and actions of the guy who's been running Encana since 2013, back when Alberta conservatives were in power both federally and provincially. The move started when we had the pro-O&G Stephen Harper in the driver's seat, and the CEO outright said this didn't have anything to do with the recent federal election.

He might be lying about all this, but I'm puzzled as to why he would.

And then there's this other Financial Post article, which implies that Encana's had bigger problems than Canadian politics.

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Encana president and CEO Doug Suttles said on an earnings call Thursday that plans to move the iconic company’s headquarters from Calgary to the U.S. were motivated in part by its underperformance to its U.S.-based peers.

“We intend to establish a U.S. domiciled company that will expose us to significantly larger and growing pools of investment,” Suttles said during the earnings call. “By looking at prior data, this will expose our company to almost three times the amount of index participation we see today as a Canadian company.”

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But shares of Encana, which — subject to shareholder approval — will be renamed Ovintiv Inc. when it moves its headquarters from Calgary to a U.S. location, have also underperformed Canadian peers, compelling many analysts to warn that the company’s relocation will not necessarily improve its performance.

“This is not the fix you are looking for,” Raymond James analyst Chris Cox wrote in a research note Friday, adding, “companies that are successfully executing strategically and conveying a compelling message to the Street typically don’t go through a rebranding effort.”

Encana shares fell 6 per cent Thursday after the relocation and rebranding effort was announced, but were trading up 0.7 per cent to $5.20 per share Friday. Cox said he didn’t believe the sell-off was overdone.

“We believe the reaction reflects an investor base that is fatigued and frustrated that this (relocation) is garnering the attention of management, as opposed to more impactful solutions to reverse the disappointing share price performance since the company announced the merger with Newfield,” Cox wrote.

CIBC World Markets analyst Jon Morrison said in a note that he is “perplexed as to the path Encana is taking” because he doesn’t believe “the fact that Encana has been a Canadian-headquartered entity has led to any material share price underperformance.”

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The company’s recent underperformance dates back to its announcement of a US$7.7-billion deal with Newfield Exploration in November 2018, which brought the company into a challenging play in Oklahoma.

Encana stock is down 33.38 per cent year to date, compared to S&P/TSX Capped Energy Index’s nearly 11 per cent drop during the period.

Indeed, many analysts and fund managers were highly critical of the Newfield deal, as it signalled a change in focus for the company away from what used to be called its “core four” resource plays in Alberta and Texas.

“They didn’t appreciate the level of hatred for that play,” Ninepoint Partners senior portfolio manager and partner Eric Nuttall said of the deal, calling it “their worst move.”

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Analysts also criticized a handful of the company’s other acquisitions, including a major deal struck as oil prices were tumbling.

“What put Encana on their knees was that huge deal in 2014,” Canoe Financial senior portfolio manager and director Rafi Tahmazian said, referring to the company’s pivot towards a focus on oil by buying Athlon Energy for $7.1 billion in Sept. 2014.

The deal was struck just as global oil prices were collapsing from above US$100 per barrel to the US$30 per barrel range. Since that time, global oil prices have struggled to rise above US$65 per barrel.



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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Yup and when the rest of the worlds oil is expended we'll be the only player in town which is what the Americans want and this might be the reason.

Strategic oil reserves. Considering that at the moment war machines run on oil not "green" energy, countries with the largest oil reserves stand the best chance of surviving and winning any future wars. So, given their subtle under the table politiciking to keep our oil in the ground it becomes quite apparent that they consider us just another part of the their strategic oil reserve which, is why they definitely don't want us sending our oil to their potential enemies or using up what they think they have secured away for future conflicts and to run their country.


That's an interesting theory, but even the US military is working to move away from fossil fuel use:

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The U.S. military's use of oil, meanwhile, fell by more than 20 percent between 2007 and 2015.


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Last year, the Navy began outfitting Arleigh Burke destroyers with gas-electric hybrid engines developed by L3, which won a $119 million contract in 2013.


That and several other interesting stories about the military's shift to renewable energy here:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1683BL


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I believe that it has more to do with eliminating the competition. The United States is again an oil exporter and Canada is a soft target because the Left and environmental activists in this country are easy to manipulate. Canadians are more than willing inflict pain on themselves or sell out their neighbors to get praise from the international community.


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I believe that it has more to do with eliminating the competition. The United States is again an oil exporter and Canada is a soft target because the Left and environmental activists in this country are easy to manipulate. Canadians are more than willing inflict pain on themselves or sell out their neighbors to get praise from the international community.


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Really, I thought St. Kenney was supposed to prevent this, I thought he was supposed to lead us out of the desert and back into prosperity. O WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN US O GOD-KING-EMPEROR?


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He never should have been promoted past Assistant Trailer Park Supervisor.

No, he should not have.


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bootlegga bootlegga:
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Yup and when the rest of the worlds oil is expended we'll be the only player in town which is what the Americans want and this might be the reason.

Strategic oil reserves. Considering that at the moment war machines run on oil not "green" energy, countries with the largest oil reserves stand the best chance of surviving and winning any future wars. So, given their subtle under the table politiciking to keep our oil in the ground it becomes quite apparent that they consider us just another part of the their strategic oil reserve which, is why they definitely don't want us sending our oil to their potential enemies or using up what they think they have secured away for future conflicts and to run their country.


That's an interesting theory, but even the US military is working to move away from fossil fuel use:

$1:
The U.S. military's use of oil, meanwhile, fell by more than 20 percent between 2007 and 2015.


$1:
Last year, the Navy began outfitting Arleigh Burke destroyers with gas-electric hybrid engines developed by L3, which won a $119 million contract in 2013.


That and several other interesting stories about the military's shift to renewable energy here:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1683BL


While they may be working to get some their front line units off of oil or reduce usage you've got to remember that, they have literally hundreds of ships, thousands of aircraft and tanks that are sitting in mothballs waiting to be reactivated in a time of war. And that doesn't even include the National Guard and Reserve units that are still oil dependant for their equipment.

So, it'll likely be a very long time before they wean themselves off of oil and as their military continues to evolve oil remains the best choice for operational security and effectiveness. So, where better to store what they consider their backup plan than in the ground in Canada.

Also the Stategic Oil Reserve isn't only for the military, it's to keep the country running at a semblance of normality in time of crisis like 1973 when America ground to a halt. Something they don't want to happen again.


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