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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:19 pm
 


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/p ... .html?_r=1

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WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is preparing executive orders that would clear the way to drastically reduce the United States’ role in the United Nations and other international organizations, as well as begin a process to review and potentially abrogate certain forms of multilateral treaties, officials said.

The first of the two draft orders, titled “Auditing and Reducing U.S. Funding of International Organizations” and obtained by The New York Times, calls for terminating funding for any United Nations agency or other international body that meets any one of several criteria.

Those criteria include organizations that give full membership to the Palestinian Authority or Palestine Liberation Organization, or support programs that fund abortion or any activity that circumvents sanctions against Iran or North Korea. The draft order also calls for terminating funding for any organization that “is controlled or substantially influenced by any state that sponsors terrorism” or is blamed for the persecution of marginalized groups or any other systematic violation of human rights.

The order calls for then enacting “at least a 40 percent overall decrease” in remaining United States funding toward international organizations.

The order establishes a committee to recommend where those funding cuts should be made. It asks the committee to look specifically at United States funding for peacekeeping operations; the International Criminal Court; development aid to countries that “oppose important United States policies”; and the United Nations Population Fund, which oversees maternal and reproductive health programs.

If President Trump signs the order and its provisions are carried out, the cuts could severely curtail the work of United Nations agencies, which rely on billions of dollars in annual United States contributions for missions that include caring for refugees.

The second executive order, “Moratorium on New Multilateral Treaties,” calls for a review of all current and pending treaties with more than one other nation. It asks for recommendations on which negotiations or treaties the United States should leave.

The order says this review applies only to multilateral treaties that are not “directly related to national security, extradition or international trade,” but it is unclear what falls outside these restrictions.

For example, the Paris climate agreement or other environmental treaties deal with trade issues but could potentially fall under this order.

An explanatory statement that accompanies the draft order mentions two United Nations treaties for review: the Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Discrimination Against Women and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Taken together, the orders suggest that Mr. Trump intends to pursue his campaign promises of withdrawing the United States from international organizations. He has expressed heavy skepticism of multilateral agreements such as the Paris climate agreement and of the United Nations.

The draft orders, which are only a few pages each, leave several unanswered questions. For example, it is unclear whether they call for cutting 40 percent of United States contributions to each international agency separately, or to the overall federal funding budget.

The United States provides about a quarter of all funding to United Nations peacekeeping operations, of which there are more than a dozen, in Europe, Africa, Latin America, the Middle East and Asia. At least one of these, the operation in southern Lebanon, directly serves Israeli interests by protecting the country’s northern border, though the draft order characterizes the funding cuts as serving Israeli interests.



The international elites hate America and now America is going to oblige them by cutting off their access to our money.

Good job, President Trump! R=UP


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/united-nations-trump-administration.html?_r=1

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WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is preparing executive orders that would clear the way to drastically reduce the United States’ role in the United Nations and other international organizations, as well as begin a process to review and potentially abrogate certain forms of multilateral treaties, officials said.

The first of the two draft orders, titled “Auditing and Reducing U.S. Funding of International Organizations” and obtained by The New York Times, calls for terminating funding for any United Nations agency or other international body that meets any one of several criteria.

Those criteria include organizations that give full membership to the Palestinian Authority or Palestine Liberation Organization, or support programs that fund abortion or any activity that circumvents sanctions against Iran or North Korea. The draft order also calls for terminating funding for any organization that “is controlled or substantially influenced by any state that sponsors terrorism” or is blamed for the persecution of marginalized groups or any other systematic violation of human rights.

The order calls for then enacting “at least a 40 percent overall decrease” in remaining United States funding toward international organizations.

The order establishes a committee to recommend where those funding cuts should be made. It asks the committee to look specifically at United States funding for peacekeeping operations; the International Criminal Court; development aid to countries that “oppose important United States policies”; and the United Nations Population Fund, which oversees maternal and reproductive health programs.

If President Trump signs the order and its provisions are carried out, the cuts could severely curtail the work of United Nations agencies, which rely on billions of dollars in annual United States contributions for missions that include caring for refugees.

The second executive order, “Moratorium on New Multilateral Treaties,” calls for a review of all current and pending treaties with more than one other nation. It asks for recommendations on which negotiations or treaties the United States should leave.

The order says this review applies only to multilateral treaties that are not “directly related to national security, extradition or international trade,” but it is unclear what falls outside these restrictions.

For example, the Paris climate agreement or other environmental treaties deal with trade issues but could potentially fall under this order.

An explanatory statement that accompanies the draft order mentions two United Nations treaties for review: the Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Discrimination Against Women and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Taken together, the orders suggest that Mr. Trump intends to pursue his campaign promises of withdrawing the United States from international organizations. He has expressed heavy skepticism of multilateral agreements such as the Paris climate agreement and of the United Nations.

The draft orders, which are only a few pages each, leave several unanswered questions. For example, it is unclear whether they call for cutting 40 percent of United States contributions to each international agency separately, or to the overall federal funding budget.

The United States provides about a quarter of all funding to United Nations peacekeeping operations, of which there are more than a dozen, in Europe, Africa, Latin America, the Middle East and Asia. At least one of these, the operation in southern Lebanon, directly serves Israeli interests by protecting the country’s northern border, though the draft order characterizes the funding cuts as serving Israeli interests.



The international elites hate America and now America is going to oblige them by cutting off their access to our money.

Good job, President Trump! R=UP


Indeed. This hatred comes from many governments and apparatuses, including those in Canada. I look forward to him confronting those who abused America for so long. America has borne far too much of the brunt of global issues with very little support from so-called allies.

There is a reason 95%+ of Canadians were rooting for Clinton to win...


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Wow.

His first week as POTUS seems to be a busy one!

It will be interesting to see how other countries react to this, especially once the details emerge about where and to what the cuts are made.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:10 pm
 


We'll muddle along with or without the US.

AS far as I'm concerned he did us a favour burying the TPP.


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AS far as I'm concerned he did us a favour burying the TPP.


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I have no dispute with this decision. The UN is a sewer and a defunding should have happened fifty years ago when it began openly siding with the terrorist groups the Soviets created, funded, trained, and armed.


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Thanos Thanos:
I have no dispute with this decision. The UN is a sewer and a defunding should have happened fifty years ago when it began openly siding with the terrorist groups the Soviets created, funded, trained, and armed.

The UN still serves a purpose but in it's current state screw it.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/united-nations-trump-administration.html?_r=1

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The draft orders, which are only a few pages each, leave several unanswered questions. For example, it is unclear whether they call for cutting 40 percent of United States contributions to each international agency separately, or to the overall federal funding budget.


The international elites hate America and now America is going to oblige them by cutting off their access to our money.

Good job, President Trump! R=UP



Man, the lefies in the MSM just can't handle the idea that US funding some of the UN
programs is going to end.

It's too much, their brains are exploding ! :lol:


Strutz Strutz:
Wow.

His first week as POTUS seems to be a busy one!

It will be interesting to see how other countries react to this, especially once the details emerge about where and to what the cuts are made.



Dude is high energy, that's for sure. Getting more done in one week
than many Presidents do in one year.

Other countries, crying and shaking in their boots, especially the Euroweenies. :)


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/united-nations-trump-administration.html?_r=1

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The draft orders, which are only a few pages each, leave several unanswered questions. For example, it is unclear whether they call for cutting 40 percent of United States contributions to each international agency separately, or to the overall federal funding budget.


The international elites hate America and now America is going to oblige them by cutting off their access to our money.

Good job, President Trump! R=UP



Man, the lefies in the MSM just can't handle the idea that US funding some of the UN
programs is going to end.

It's too much, their brains are exploding ! :lol:


Strutz Strutz:
Wow.

His first week as POTUS seems to be a busy one!

It will be interesting to see how other countries react to this, especially once the details emerge about where and to what the cuts are made.



Dude is high energy, that's for sure. Getting more done in one week
than many Presidents do in one year.

Other countries, crying and shaking in their boots, especially the Euroweenies. :)[/quote]



Zipperfish Zipperfish:
We'll muddle along with or without the US.

AS far as I'm concerned he did us a favour burying the TPP.


Yeah I'm sure Potato will commit to Canada making up the difference.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:12 am
 


Title: Donald Trump to sign executive order to dramatically reduce funding of United Nations
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Date: 2017-01-26 00:05:29


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It's already a topic.

try reading first.....scroll



us-politics-f18/trump-prepares-orders-aiming-at-global-funding-and-treaties-t118404.html


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/united-nations-trump-administration.html?_r=1

The international elites hate America and now America is going to oblige them by cutting off their access to our money.

Good job, President Trump! R=UP


That's his prerogative to fund whatever international organizations he wants, but then he better not expect the international community to bail him out if he attacks Iran or starts a trade war with China or whatever else he does. Remember how well ignoring the UN/Europe went for Dubya after 2003? The US is the only superpower, but even its power has limits.

The thing that I find interesting is that conservatives who were crying about Obama's executive orders are all silent as church mice about Trump's. If Trump continues at his current pace, he'll issue more in three months than Obama did in eight years...things that make you hmmmm. :wink:


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bootlegga bootlegga:
nternational organizations he wants, but then he better not expect the international community to bail him out if he attacks Iran or starts a trade war with China or whatever else he does. Remember how well ignoring the UN/Europe went for Dubya after 2003? The US is the only superpower, but even its power has limits.


I don't expect this will be a problem.
The ROW has for decades sat on it's ass and done nothing while the USA
does ALL the heavy lifting.


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The thing that I find interesting is that conservatives who were crying about Obama's executive orders are all silent as church mice about Trump's. If Trump continues at his current pace, he'll issue more in three months than Obama did in eight years...things that make you hmmmm. :wink:


Sauce for the goose......

I fully expect him to sign more than Obama.
First, he promised to cancel most if not all of Obama's executive orders.
Second, there are a lot more things that need fixing besides the ones
that Obama fucked up. :lol:


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The U.S. provides about a quarter of the funding for UN operations, having played a major role in its founding after World War II as an institution to further Democratic norms and mediate disputes.



ROTFL


Here's the top 10 list of UN failures.

#10 Terrorism

#9 Nuclear Proliferation

#8 Sri Lanka

#7 Child sex abuse scandal

#6 Veto Power

#5 Srebrenica Massacre

#4 Khmer Rouge

#3 The Cold War

#2 Darfur

#1 Rwanda

http://listverse.com/2013/01/28/top-10- ... nations-2/

So much for the UN's vaunted ability to mediate disputes and further democratic norms.

But to be fair here's a list of the UN's greatest successes

#1 Food aid (to bad they use the Haiti mission with millions of dollars being siphoned off to the black market or left rotting on the docks as a shinning example)

#2 Aid to Refugees (to bad they didn't use current day Europe to show how successful this policy was)

#3 Protecting Children (see # 7 above)

#4 Peacekeeping (see #'s 8,5,4,2 and 1 above)

#5 Running elections (see Zimbabwe for an example of how helpful the UN is in running democratic elections)

#6 Reproductive Health and Population Management ( I'll give them this one)

#7 War Crimes Tribunals (this is one are where they have made a positive impact)

#8 Fighting AIDS (they've done great work here but like small pox and rindipest other diseases that they claimed to have eliminated or eradicated only time will tell how successful they've been)

#9 Bringing invisible issues to the forefront (I'll call bullshit see # 7 above. They tried their best to hide that disgusting fact from the world)

http://theflame.unishanoi.org/opinion/2 ... d-nations/


Any institution who's mandate was to help but, has fucked up as often as the UN has would have been terminated or at the very least revamped ages ago. Unfortunately, the UN much like the EU, has become through nepotism, self aggrandisement, political pandering and an ever growing need for total power, a completely different entity than what Roosevelt had envisioned it to be.



Maybe the Americans shouldn't just defund that cesspool of inequity, maybe they should remove it physically from their country and relocate it to another place that's more in line with the warped ideology and dogmatism it's come to represent.

So, how about Aleppo as the new home of the UN?


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