So what would Clintonites point be then? That only votes in New York and California matter?
N_Fiddledog
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And if anybody's still keeping count - Jill Stein's Clinton-friendly recount failed, The move to harass the electoral college reps into changing their votes failed, Social justice whiners attempts to garner sympathy with public temper tantrums at not getting their way failed, and unless you are saying only New York and California should vote, the suggestion only the popular vote matters also failed.
"Fail" get used to that word snowflakes.
BartSimpson
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:07 pm
Trump keeps defeating these fuckers over and over and over.
raydan
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:11 pm
So California and NY will secede and the rest of the country will become Trumpland.
New England, being cut off, would join Canada as our 11th province.
Thanos
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:12 pm
Imperfect result of an imperfect system. Only whiners complain about the structure of the system when they don't get their way. If it keeps things from turning into a twenty-party clusterfuck like they have to put up with in Israel or Italy where every single puny obnoxious party gets a few seats than so be it. Better what exists now than fucked up coalition-building that has to get propped up by communists or religious fanatics to take power.
andyt
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$1:
Trump claims he could have also won the popular vote, if he wanted to
So California and NY will secede and the rest of the country will become Trumpland.
New England, being cut off, would join Canada as our 11th province.
If the coasts and northern Illinois seceded then their first problems would involve feeding themselves.
Their problems would then come at them like a tsunami becuase without the Republicans and conservatives to temper their excesses they'd rapidly transform their states into socialist shitholes. It'd be like Venezuela but with stupid people in charge.
They'd inevitably get so bad that Mexico would have to build a wall to keep the starving refugees out.
JaredMilne
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:12 pm
Trump may have lost the popular vote, but he won the election according to the rules laid out in the U.S. Constitution.
Deal with it.
herbie
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:22 pm
My opinion too. But in a different way than these others. I don't mean STFU. I mean, at least make an effort to fix the system.
Strutz
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Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:55 pm
JaredMilne JaredMilne:
Trump may have lost the popular vote, but he won the election according to the rules laid out in the U.S. Constitution.
Deal with it.
Exactly.
There could never be an election result that everyone is ok with. Just be glad that there is somewhat of a fair process in place, though imperfect in some ways depending on the perspective at which one looks at it.
Having a leader imposed upon the people with little or no process in place at all would be far, far worse.
bootlegga
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:02 am
JaredMilne JaredMilne:
Trump may have lost the popular vote, but he won the election according to the rules laid out in the U.S. Constitution.
Deal with it.
Yep - IMHO, the only discussion now should be whether to reform the system or keep it the way it is (there are good arguments for both options).
As this video from 2011 shows, you can win the presidency with only 22% of the popular vote by winning states, not people.
Getting 50+ million votes, Trump didn't do this, but that video does show a significant flaw in the current system.
BartSimpson
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:13 am
bootlegga bootlegga:
Yep - IMHO, the only discussion now should be whether to reform the system or keep it the way it is (there are good arguments for both options).
The US will not move to a popular vote system because that will REQUIRE a Constitutional Amendment and there's just no way that enough state legislatures would ratify something which would render their states irrelevant in national elections.
Freakinoldguy
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:29 am
TBH I'm really surprised she only won the popular vote by 2.8 million especially given the fact that there are at best estimate about 11.7 million illegal aliens currently residing in America.
$1:
About 11.7 million immigrants are living in the United States illegally, a population that has not varied much over the last three years but may recently be increasing again, according to new estimates published Monday by the Pew Research Center Hispanic Trends Project.
Maybe, she should have paid more attention to getting the "illegal" vote out rather than worrying about how she was going to redecorate the White House when she and Slick Willie moved in again.