[Thanos]

Tricks Tricks:

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

A controversial politician?

The guy wanted federal funding to go towards homosexual conversion therapy. He's a fucking nutjob.

Conversion, brought to you with electro-shock "therapy" applied with all the love of the Lord that Christian Taliban of that stripe can muster.

Also, Indiana has a low-grade AIDS epidemic going on too, thanks to the GOP in charge ignoring, undermining, and outright banning every successful public health strategy that's been known for the last 25 years to combat the disease. Once again, joyously brought to you with the most loving righteous condemnation of the enemy's lifestyle that they can provide.

[andyt]

bootlegga bootlegga:

The VP went to a theatre in a city that voted something like 90% in favour of HRC and is surprised that the crowd hates him?

Obviously, he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Say what you want about Obama, but he was smart enough not to go into the lion's den.

Actually Pence said it's not a problem for him. The person who can't let it go is Little Hands. And of course his acolytes.

[shockedcanadian]

Tricks Tricks:

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

A controversial politician?

The guy wanted federal funding to go towards homosexual conversion therapy. He's a fucking nutjob.

I care little for social issues, outside of keep the government out of peoples business. In that regard, I wouldn't get along nor agree with Pence. Regardless, your suggestion that he is a nutjob based on one particular opinion he has is short sighted and shallow.

Where I do agree and in which we share views is in economic concepts, that's where he is best served. If Americas economy doesn't kick start and expand Canada will suffer as much as Americans will. Not to mention global democracy, of which Canada offers little.

[BartSimpson]

Tricks Tricks:

The guy wanted federal funding to go towards homosexual conversion therapy. He's a fucking nutjob.

If a homosexual wants to be straight isn't that their choice? Shouldn't they have access to the same therapeutic options as someone who has been straight who wants to be gay or change their gender?

Granted, I would not want anyone to be forced into gay conversion therapy but if this is what it takes to make them happy and fulfilled as a person then why not?

[Thanos]

Considering that conversion therapy usually consists of a 15-year old being abducted by their parents and church then sent off to parts unknown in the countryside to be tortured until they submit I highly doubt there's much of any "choice" involved.

[Lemmy]

y

[Tricks]

shockedcanadian shockedcanadian:

Regardless, your suggestion that he is a nutjob based on one particular opinion he has is short sighted and shallow.

By that definition, we can say that someone who thinks the earth is flat isn't a nut job.

He's a nut job.

[Tricks]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

If a homosexual wants to be straight isn't that their choice? Shouldn't they have access to the same therapeutic options as someone who has been straight who wants to be gay or change their gender?

Granted, I would not want anyone to be forced into gay conversion therapy but if this is what it takes to make them happy and fulfilled as a person then why not?

Because conversion therapy isn't a thing. You can't cure the gay away. Promoting that idea is damaging to people who are confused and being rejected by their bastard parents and shitty communities.

You know, the ones Mike Pence is part of.

[BRAH]

Mike Pence wasn't offended but the usual Libtards are using this to fuel their Trump Derangement Syndrome.

[N_Fiddledog]

Let's sharpen some facts before misunderstandings of them develop a pattern of being quoted as whole truths.

Back in 2000, even before Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton came out publicly as opposed to gay marriage, Congressman Mike Pence (this was before he was a governor) had a policy position statement on his website.

It supported, "an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus."

It went on to suggest, "Resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior."

But no, not even back in 2000 did he support dragging homosexuals into Conversion Therapy Clinics to be electroshocked straight. If that's what's being insinuated.

On the suggestion of an HIV "epidemic" in Indiana supposedly caused by Governor Pence stubbornly refusing therapy for homosexuals, got a link for that? The ones I found aren't saying that.

What Google tells me so far is the increase in HIV cases in Indiana was restricted to one county and those in the know seemed to be centered on drug use as cause.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /26498117/

[Tricks]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

It supported, "an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus."

So any kind of unprotected sex? Guess we better pull funding from anyone who endorses having children.

$1:

It went on to suggest, "Resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior."

So should we provide assistance to people who wish to torture themselves? Should we help people maim themselves and potentially cause irreparable harm? If these people want to do that to themselves on their own dime, that's their right, but we should NOT be paying for it and endorsing it. It's based off lies and deceit from shitty people.

[N_Fiddledog]

Well we can deal with that sort of twist and spin if it becomes a problem.

Right now there's a BS claim that insinuates Mike Pence currently wants gays dragged into conversion therapy to be electro-shocked straight.

That's a fabricated claim from up the butthole. It's a lie.

No, I'm not saying that's what you said. I'm saying that's where the partial truth spins to.

Witness the fact you keep hearing people suggesting some version of it.

[Tricks]

Sure people say that, with no evidence to support it.

There is evidence to support that he is a very vocal opponent to anything relating to gay people having the same rights and straight people. Which makes him a giant bag of shit.

[N_Fiddledog]

Really? Pence doesn't want gay people to have the same rights as straight people?

When did he say that?

[N_Fiddledog]

Opposition to gay marriage, you mean? Or providing services? Like the right to have a christian photographer photograph your gay wedding, kind of thing - if that's supposed to be a right.

Did you see Pence's final compromise on that last one?

$1:

Specifically, the new language says the RFRA does not authorize a provider — including businesses or individuals — to refuse to offer or provide services, facilities, goods, employment, housing or public accommodation to any member of the public based on sexual orientation or gender identity, in addition to race, color, religion, ancestry, age, national origin, disability, sex or military service.

The proposed language exempts churches or other nonprofit religious organizations — including affiliated schools — from the definition of "provider."

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/poli ... /70766920/