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Title: Campaign cone of silence descends on Saudi Arabia arms deal: Neil Macdonald
Category: Political
Posted By: andyt
Date: 2015-10-01 07:57:40
Canadian

[andyt]

$1:

For a brief, fascinating moment, it looked like we might actually be having a real national discussion about Canada's embrace of a bellicose, misogynistic, medieval theocracy that has a nasty habit of shoving cash into the pockets of those Stephen Harper would call "jihadi terrorists."

The reason for the lack of disclosure would appear to be pretty simple: the Saudis have demanded secrecy, and Conservative ministers were instructed accordingly.

Something else: As Duceppe correctly pointed out, the objective difference between our allies, the Saudis, and ISIS is blurred.

Despite now being part of the anti-ISIS coalition, the Saudis have provided extensive support to the group in the past, and have funded extremist madrassas (schools) and mosques worldwide over the years.

In fact, 28 pages of the U.S. Congress's report on 9/11, which remain officially suppressed, are widely believed to accuse high-ranking Saudi officials of providing consular and financial support to the hijackers, the vast majority of whom were Saudis.

So. Why did Canada's arms sales die so quickly as a campaign issue? It wasn't even raised in the foreign policy debate a week later.

Well, our main party leaders really don't want to talk about it. Justin Trudeau simply evaded the question during the French debate.

Tom Mulcair went a bit further, saying Canada should study a country's human rights record before approving arms sales, and was promptly asked by a large industrial union involved in the contract, Unifor, to please shut up.

("We asked the NDP to not make this an issue, that it be kept under wraps," said Fergo Berto, Unifor area director for London.)

TRUDEAU HOLDING SACHA-SAUDI HEAD DRESS
Former prime minister Pierre Trudeau holds his then six-year-old son Alexandre (Sacha) Trudeau in his arms while on a tour of Saudi Arabia in November 1980. (Andy Clark/Canadian Press)

But what really killed the issue was the apparently widespread belief among Canadians that the Saudis are somehow moderate.

Disgusting.

[Thanos]

I won't be voting in the election and this issue is the main reason why. I can't support a leader that stands behind any business deals with Saudi Arabia, not after what the actions of the Saudis over the last year have done to Alberta.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

I won't be voting in the election and this issue is the main reason why. I can't support a leader that stands behind any business deals with Saudi Arabia, not after what the actions of the Saudis over the last year have done to Alberta.

Vote anyway but vote to disrupt.

Myself and a growing number of conservatives are threatening to vote for Bernie Sanders if the GOP sabotages the conservatives and steals the nomination with a brokered convention which will ignore the votes cast in the primaries.

I will not vote for one single Republican in any race if the GOP steals the nomination in favor of one of their bought-and-paid-for establishment whores.

[xerxes]

As always, Wu-Tang had it right: C.R.E.A.M.

[Thanos]

Can't do that, Bart. I live in Harper's riding. He's still going to win by about 20000 votes even with me sitting this one out. I sent a detailed e-mail to the Conservative main office about why I'm mad at them but haven't received any reply, and I don't expect to ever get one anyway. Can't ever vote for the others anyway. The Liberals can't ever be trusted in Alberta, period, no matter what they're currently saying. The NDP openly hate us and have pretty much vowed to double/triple/quadruple-up on the damage the Saudis have already caused with the environmental and regulatory regime they're promising if they win. I might be bitter and disaffected enough, and incredibly pissed off at the kid gloves handling they're giving to the Saudis, to not vote Conservative, but that doesn't mean that I'm suicidal and will vote Liberal or Dipper. I'm depressed and demoralized, but I'm not that insane.

[DrCaleb]

Thanos Thanos:

I'm depressed and demoralized, but I'm not that insane.

Canadian Heritage Party.

Communist.

Rhino.

I'm sure you are that insane.

[martin14]

Thanos Thanos:

I live in Harper's riding.

I had a look.

So are you now in Calgary Heritage, with

34th 1988–1993 Bobbie Sparrow Progressive Conservative
35th 1993–1997 Preston Manning Reform
36th 1997–2000 2000–2000 Alliance
37th 2000–2002
2002–2003 Stephen Harper Alliance
2003–2004 Conservative

or the new riding of Calgary Mindanao, where all the housekeepers live ?



Vote for this guy: Nicolas Duchastel de Montrouge

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/a ... -1.3246967

Take a photo of your ballot, and send it off to Con HQ.
It will make them crazy

[Thanos]

Not quite. Doc. I'm pretty sure though that if I had a rifle and was reasonably good with it I would have driven to Ottawa and taken a shot at the Saudi ambassador. And that's not insanity, that type of action would have been genuinely patriotic. These fucking Arab assholes are our enemies. Why in the fuck are so few out there capable of even seeing it?

[Thanos]

martin14 martin14:

Thanos Thanos:

I live in Harper's riding.

I had a look.

So are you now in Calgary Heritage, with

34th 1988–1993 Bobbie Sparrow Progressive Conservative
35th 1993–1997 Preston Manning Reform
36th 1997–2000 2000–2000 Alliance
37th 2000–2002
2002–2003 Stephen Harper Alliance
2003–2004 Conservative

or the new riding of Calgary Mindanao, where all the housekeepers live ?



Vote for this guy: Nicolas Duchastel de Montrouge

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/a ... -1.3246967

Take a photo of your ballot, and send it off to Con HQ.
It will make them crazy

The way I look at it now I really have no one that I can vote for anymore. I detest the Liberals and Dippers with everything in me, and voting Conservative at all has been completely pointless because when the chips are down they will never ever be there for people like me.

It's all a fucking sham and it took me almost fifty years to figure it out. I'd sooner live in a place modelled after Nazi Germany. No rights of free expression but at least they made sure you had a job and that citizens would be favoured over foreigners instead of the other way around.

[martin14]

Thanos Thanos:

The way I look at it now I really have no one that I can vote for anymore. I detest the Liberals and Dippers with everything in me, and voting Conservative at all has been completely pointless because when the chips are down they will never ever be there for people like me.

It's all a fucking sham and it took me almost fifty years to figure it out. I'd sooner live in a place modelled after Nazi Germany. No rights of free expression but at least they made sure you had a job and that citizens would be favoured over foreigners instead of the other way around.

I know, I guess at least the Cons pretend to delay the inevitable, rather than rushing headlong into it.


This is how democracy works in Europe these days.

http://spectator.sme.sk/c/20059217/refe ... there.html

$1:

IN THE local referendum, inhabitants of the municipality of Gabčíkovo on August 2 refused the refugees that shall arrive there, and also the establishment of a temporary refugee camp.

A total of 2,603 voters went to the ballot boxes; which is 58.46 percent of eligible inhabitants. Out of that, 96.67 percent, i.e. 2,501 inhabitants, were against, chair of the referendum committee Teodor Bodo confirmed for the TASR newswire.

Austria has now outsourced 500 illegals to a Slovak camp, in spite of a 97% NO vote in a
referendum in the town the camp is in.

[ShepherdsDog]

Thanos Thanos:

These fucking Arab assholes are our enemies. Why in the fuck are so few out there capable of even seeing it?

[Winnipegger]

Thanos Thanos:

I'm depressed and demoralized, but I'm not that insane.

Libertarian Party of Canada? You have a candidate in your riding: Steven Paolasini

Of course the Liberal Party has said they support the Keystone XL pipeline, and TransMountain pipeline (Kinder Morgan). He's against Northern Gateway. I don't know where he stands on reversing the flow of Line 9. And he said no federal carbon tax or cap-and-trade system; instead he would work with provincial governments on their plans for that.

So what is your objection to the Liberals?

[ShepherdsDog]

Your coronation process perhaps.

[Thanos]

The endless corruption of the Chretien government?

The region vs. region favouritism that Trudeau Sr. perfected?

Two referendums in Quebec that nearly broke up the country?

Being the primary motivator behind the western separatism phenomenon?

Take your pick from that and a hundred other things that happen when Liberals are in power.