[Newsbot]

Title: Woman, 80, trampled to death in Venezuelan supermarket stampede
Category: World
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2015-08-31 00:18:53

[QBall]

Big round of applause for socialism folks! Thanks for playing "Failed Economic Models That Idiots Still Think Works".

[Delwin]

Right, disorderly conduct is a socialist thing, just ask the families of those killed in black Friday stampedes.

http://blackfridaydeathcount.com/

Unbridled capitalism at it's best.

[ShepherdsDog]

That's greed in a society plagued by conspicuous consumption ......the woman in Venezuela was trampled because desperate people are going hungry.

[PluggyRug]

Delwin Delwin:

Right, disorderly conduct is a socialist thing, just ask the families of those killed in black Friday stampedes.

http://blackfridaydeathcount.com/

Unbridled capitalism at it's best.

I guess you didn't watch the G20 riots.

[BartSimpson]

QBall QBall:

Big round of applause for socialism folks! Thanks for playing "Failed Economic Models That Idiots Still Think Works".

Pointing out the failures of socialism does nothing to the crowd that insists socialism would work in its 'pure' form...whatever the fuck that is.

[ShepherdsDog]

Something only found in books, or on small communes that operate for a profit - ie Kibbutz....Hutterite colonies.

[Delwin]

Well sounds a lot better than the price riots in Capitalist Venezuela in 1989 where 300 were confirmed killed and thousands were suspected killed the last time oil prices tanked.

That's progress.

[BartSimpson]

Delwin Delwin:

Well sounds a lot better than the price riots in Capitalist Venezuela in 1989 where 300 were confirmed killed and thousands were suspected killed the last time oil prices tanked.

That's progress.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2014/c ... /venezuela

There's your 'progress' for you.

[Delwin]

Humans rights Watch has an anti-socialist bias and can not be viewed as credible when it comes to Venezuela.

Nobel Peace Laureates Slam Human Rights Watch's Refusal to Cut Ties to U.S. Government

http://www.alternet.org/world/nobel-pea ... government

[BartSimpson]

Delwin Delwin:

Humans rights Watch has an anti-socialist bias...

Well, no shit they do! The worst abuses in history occur under socialist regimes! There's no way in hell they could rationally support human rights and simultaneously remain objective about socialism!

[Delwin]

That's funny, I guess the free market slave trade doesn't register as a human rights abuse.

Here's a letter signed by over 100 independant experts on south America whom expressed concern over HRW's obvious slant.


Scholars Respond to HRW’s Kenneth Roth’s Riposte on Venezuelan Human Rights

http://www.coha.org/scholars-respond-to ... an-rights/

When it becomes more about economic models than actual human rights, your credibility goes down the shitter.

[Thanos]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

QBall QBall:

Big round of applause for socialism folks! Thanks for playing "Failed Economic Models That Idiots Still Think Works".

Pointing out the failures of socialism does nothing to the crowd that insists socialism would work in its 'pure' form...whatever the fuck that is.

You guys keep insisting that the free market in it's purest form will operate perfectly. But all your country got out of it when it was put into practice was the Rust Belt, tens of millions of jobs sent to places like China, and an orgy of financial sector criminality over the last three decades that would have embarrassed the most debauched aristocrats of the Old World with it's blatant gaudiness and runaway greed.

Just here as the devil's advocate to remind you when you say these sorts of things you're also sticking up for a way of life that is as horrific, innately vicious, outright cruel, thoroughly anti-human, and as prone to creating atrocities as the other one that you oppose.

[MaelstromRider]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Delwin Delwin:

Humans rights Watch has an anti-socialist bias...

Well, no shit they do! The worst abuses in history occur under socialist regimes! There's no way in hell they could rationally support human rights and simultaneously remain objective about socialism!

"The worst abuses in history"? Come now.

I'm not sure where you would place the Armenian genocide, the Holocaust and the Rwandan genocide on the spectrum of worst state sponsored abuses in history. Regardless, it's clear to me that totalitarian 'socialist' regimes do not hold a (state-controlled?) monopoly on aberrant violent anti-social policy that results in atrocity.

Neither of these three widely recognised attempts to destroy an entire ethnicity was perpetrated by a 'socialist' regime. Nor, for that matter, was the systematic relocation and subsequent destruction of North American Native populations throughout the 19th century.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

You guys keep insisting that the free market in it's purest form will operate perfectly.

Like hell I did. I've long supported the role of government in maintaining a level playing field where everyone has an opportunity. I oppose the notion that government is supposed to seek to level outcomes in the interest of a 'fairness' that itself is the stuff of a playground argument.

"That's not fair!" is not a philosophy on which to base government policy.