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Title: Anders Breivik accepted at Norway's University of Oslo
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2015-07-17 09:37:11

[Zipperfish]

I wonder what his thesis will be. "Furtehring your political goals by targeting and killing unarmed children."

[2Cdo]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I wonder what his thesis will be. "Furtehring your political goals by targeting and killing unarmed children."

I still think 2 in the chest and 1 in the head would have been much better than feeding and housing this scumbag for the rest of his life.

[BeaverFever]

That's the thing about leftist governments: even the right wing nutjobs benefit.

I'm sure lack of capital punishment and subsidized university available to convicts was on Breiviks list of hated socialist policies that caused him to gun down legal wing party members in the first place.

[Zipperfish]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I wonder what his thesis will be. "Furtehring your political goals by targeting and killing unarmed children."

I still think 2 in the chest and 1 in the head would have been much better than feeding and housing this scumbag for the rest of his life.

Yeah he's an attention whore. Every chnace he gets to further goad the families of his victims, he's going to take.

[Thanos]

The problem is that Breivik will be seen as more and more of a leader and a prophet in his own right as Muslim aggression increases and the European will to resist Islam withers even more.

[BeaverFever]

In what way has "the European will to resist Islam withered" vs North America?

[Thanos]

You can take a look at entire neighbourhoods in cities like Paris or Malmo where the police no longer enter because they'll be attacked by thugs that are exclusively Muslim. And, both before and after Charlie Hebdo, the rise in Jews leaving countries like France strictly because of Muslim intimidation, assaults, and even murder being inflicted on them. Or practically every story that comes out of Britain, from the Rotherham rape-grooming gangs to the beheading of Lee Rigby, where the authorities cowardly get out of the way and do little to nothing when Muslim perpetrators are involved. Or Holland, where Ayaan Hirsi Ali had to give up her Dutch citizenship and flee for safety to the United States because the Dutch government openly indicated that it would no longer protect her and could have cared less if/when some Muslim murderers finally caught up with her.

I don't support what Anders Breivik did. But to suggest that what he did was committed in a vaccum where no Muslim/immigrant behaviour had supplied him with a motivation to act is just plain ridiculous.

[BeaverFever]

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You can take a look at entire neighbourhoods in cities like Paris or Malmo where the police no longer enter because they'll be attacked by thugs that are exclusively Muslim

Truth or fiction?

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And, both before and after Charlie Hebdo, the rise in Jews leaving countries like France strictly because of Muslim intimidation, assaults, and even murder being inflicted on them.

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from the Rotherham rape-grooming gangs

The claim that the police did nothing because they were afraid of offending muslims is a phoney one. The police did nothing because they did not care for or believe the girls.

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the beheading of Lee Rigby, where the authorities cowardly get out of the way

The police shot both men and they are currently serving a life sentence. So I'm not sure what you're referring to here.

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Or Holland, where Ayaan Hirsi Ali had to give up her Dutch citizenship and flee for safety to the United States because the Dutch government openly indicated that it would no longer protect her and could have cared less if/when some Muslim murderers finally caught up with her.

Ummm no.

As it turns out, the opposite is true. Parliament voted to allow her to KEEP her citizenship as a special exception, after it was revealed she admtted that she had immigrated to Netherlands under false pretenses (fake name, dubious refugee claim).

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The investigation found that Hirsi Ali had not legitimately received Dutch citizenship, because she had lied about her name and date of birth. Rita Verdonk moved to annul Hirsi Ali's citizenship, an action later overridden at the urging of Parliament.[54]

On 16 May Hirsi Ali resigned from Parliament after admitting that she had lied on her asylum application. She gave a press conference,[56] saying that, although she felt it was wrong to be granted asylum under false pretences, the facts had been publicly known since 2002, when they had been reported in the media and in one of her publications. She also restated her claim of seeking asylum to prevent a forced marriage, although some of her relatives had denied that on the Zembla programme. Her stated reason for resigning immediately was the news that the Minister would strip her of her Dutch citizenship.

After a long and emotional debate in the Dutch Parliament, all major parties supported a motion requesting the Minister to explore the possibility of special circumstances in Hirsi Ali's case. Although Verdonk remained convinced that the applicable law did not leave her room to consider such circumstances, she decided to accept the motion. During the debate, she said that Hirsi Ali still had Dutch citizenship during the period of reexamination. Apparently the "decision" she had announced had represented the current position of the Dutch government. Hirsi Ali at that point had six weeks to react to the report before any final decision about her citizenship was taken. Verdonk was strongly criticised for her actions in such a sensitive case.[57]

In addition to her Dutch passport, Hirsi Ali retained a Dutch residency permit based on being a political refugee. According to the Minister, this permit could not be taken away from her since it had been granted more than 12 years before.

On 27 June 2006, the Dutch government announced that Hirsi Ali would keep her Dutch citizenship.[63]

[andyt]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

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You can take a look at entire neighbourhoods in cities like Paris or Malmo where the police no longer enter because they'll be attacked by thugs that are exclusively Muslim

Truth or fiction?

It appears to be fiction: http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... ts/384656/

$1:

It probably has a lot to do with the conservative media ecosystem. Erroneous beliefs such as these tend to concentrate along people's partisan or ideological axes. (The same is true of liberal media, though not in this particular case.) And once an idea has taken seed, it's extremely difficult to root out. As political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler have shown, corrections can actually backfire, increasing holders' faith in their incorrect beliefs.

Unfortunately, even reporting on these misconceptions can worsen the problem, so I am part of the problem. But it seems important to note that Jindal is plainly wrong. These sorts of distortions and exaggerations don't help to fight the very real threat of Islamist terror. They don't serve the cause of creating an informed, reasoned democratic society.

Thanks for making me check this out, I'd always assumed it was true.

[Canadian_Mind]

I find this offensive.

[martin14]

Oh look the two retards who know absolutely zero are talking about Europe again.

Next they will tell us about all the lovely absolutely free health care
for everyone.

[Zipperfish]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

The claim that the police did nothing because they were afraid of offending muslims is a phoney one. The police did nothing because they did not care for or believe the girls.

Actually that one is well documented. Several officials cited fear of being labelled a racist in the Rotherham debacle.

[andyt]

well, they're not going to come out and say "I did nothing cause I just saw the girls as slags" are they. It's also documented that the police and social workers claimed the girls were doing this willingly

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The report on Rotherham is clear-eyed about who targeted the girls: men of Pakistani and Kashmiri descent, working in gangs to rape and torture girls. The men called the girls "white trash", but white girls were not their only victims. They also abused women in their own community who had pressure put on them never to name names.

Certain journalists, including Julie Bindel, have been covering this story for years and have never shied away from describing the men's ethnic origin. Ethnicity is a factor but there is also a shared assumption beneath the police inaction and the council workers' negligence: all of them deemed the girls worthless. The police described them as "undesirables" while knowing they were indeed "desired" by both Pakistani and white men for sex. They were never seen as children at all, but as somehow unrapeable, capable of consensual sex with five men at the age of 11.

It is as if everyone has agreed who is worthless and who isn't; who can be saved and who can't. The police, the local authority, the government, and indeed the grooming gangs, appear to share the same ideology about sexual purity – and its value.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... se-scandal

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She’s wrong because, as the British would say, it’s all bollocks. It’s just not true. British society has problems. It has race problems. It has class problems. It has gender problems. The authorities in question didn’t care about poor 14-year old girls – whatever the colour of their skin – and for them to try and whitewash it with worries of “institutionalized political correctness” is disingenuous, particularly given the genuine problems with racism and sexism that have been reported in Rotherham previously.

Rotherham, like most of the western world, isn’t a place where political correctness has the influence critics like Wente claim it has. If it did, these girls might have been listened to long before. To claim that the Rotherham scandal is due to political correctness is either deeply myopic or clear evidence of another agenda that – like her British, Conservative peers – Wente tries to veil with claims of courage.

This applies to gender as much as race. The authorities in Rotherham thought the women involved were somehow less deserving of their protection. As a report from an inquiry into the scandal put it, police “gave no priority to child sexual exploitation, regarding many child victims with contempt and failing to act on their abuse as a crime.” When young rape victims are regarded as “sluts” or “whores” or “slags” by the authorities, this indicates that the authorities don’t think of them as victims but as willing participants and beyond human.

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- See more at: http://theindependent.ca/tag/rotherham- ... 5rzZd.dpuf


Seems police, social workers and a good part of white English society saw the girls as deserving of what they got, just as the abusers did. Not really much difference in culture there. Perfect storm. And if you want to claim that by expelling all Muslims, there'd be no more abuse of underage girls - give your head a shake.

[N_Fiddledog]

So what you have there is something in the opinion section of the far left rag, The Guardian from somebody claiming she's a journalist now, but used to work in the area that is being damned for ignoring crimes because to report them would not be politically correct.

The other one is deceptive in that on that page it appears to be suggesting it's from a Globe and Mail journalist, but no, read a little closer and it's actually a reply to Globe and Mail columnist Margaret Wente from this guy...



It's in something called The Independent out of Newfoundland. Let's guess what that is.

What Martin was talking about were government reports based on long studies, as described in the news section of the British newspaper The Telegraph.

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The extent of the problem of CSE in Rotherham was exposed last year when a report by Professor Alexis Jay found that as many as 1,600 vulnerable girls had been abused by gangs of mainly Pakistani men.

It was revealed that council bosses, police and social workers had turned a blind eye for fear of being labelled racist.

Miss Casey said her report confirmed those findings, adding that leading figures in the council had demonstrated "a resolute denial of what has happened in the borough".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... rpose.html

There's tons of hard and soft evidence to support the idea that "council bosses, police and social workers had turned a blind eye for fear of being labelled racist".

The evidence is a cumulative thing that is long and tedious to produce, but if we're relying on little squibs of things that have been said by people with opinions, see the above and choose.