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Title: Teen suspect charged as adult in hammer beating death
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: N_Fiddledog
Date: 2014-12-01 22:11:27

[N_Fiddledog]

This one also happened in St. Louis. There was a quiet vigil for the murdered man. Al Sharpton and Eric Holder did not attend this one for some reason. (best guess is cause they're race-baiting scum)

[Thanos]

Po-po be like rayciss an' sheeeeet.

[N_Fiddledog]

Zemir Begic was a Bosnian in town to visit friends or family. St. Louis has a large and law-abiding Bosnian community.

Zemir was a husband, father and brother.



http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11 ... -arrested/

[Freakinoldguy]

Just another poor black teen that the system failed. FFS none of this would have happened if the Gov't had given him money, a University diploma, free drugs, a house in the burbs and a job he didn't have to show up at.

This poor kid was so disadvantaged that he couldn't even afford a gun to do his killing which is saying alot in America.

(sarcasm off)

My guess is that at some point one of the herd of giant race baiters will arrive from their home planet and claim this killing was in retaliation for Michael Brown's death which, will twist the truth around in such a way as to make it just another white caused murder because as everyone knows, only whites kill blacks.

[xerxes]

Correction. White police officers kill blacks. That's the difference here.

[martin14]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

My guess is that at some point one of the herd of giant race baiters will arrive from their home planet and claim this killing was 'justified' as retaliation for Michael Brown's death which,

Inserted one word to help you out.

[Freakinoldguy]

xerxes xerxes:

Correction. White police officers kill blacks. That's the difference here.

I'm pretty sure that "police officers" of any colour will kill people of any colour if attacked and it's just not an issue unless the attacker is black because, it's viewed as protecting themselves and society as opposed to being a blatant racist act perpetuated for their own personal pleasure.

People say that blacks are unfairly targeted by police because of colour and I say bullshit. Blacks are unfairly targeted because the police know that if they pull over a black man there's a strong chance they'll find something illegal either on them or in the vehicle so this has less to do with race and on hell of alot more to do with the fact that blacks commit more crimes per capita than whites which, might explain why their incarceration rate is so high.

Are they disadvantaged yes but then again so were other peoples throughout American history and they managed to claw they're way out of poverty. But, because the blacks serve a very distinct purpose for Liberals and racists they're unfairly treated by both, not just the police. The Liberals need a visibly disadvantaged group they can speak and think for to assuage their self induced white guilt, and the racists need to keep the the blacks downtrodden so they can perpetuate the myth of white superiority. The truly sad part is that alot of blacks are willing to play the victim rather than fight for their dignity and rightful place in society.

This has probably been shown on here before but it's good to remember that not all black people think like the rioters in Ferguson. This kid gets it but, because what he's saying is heresy to those 2 enlightened groups of non blacks and his own community, nobody wants to listen.

[N_Fiddledog]

xerxes xerxes:

Correction. White police officers kill blacks. That's the difference here.

Oh go somewhere and put your hands up.

Pretend you know why you're doing it.

Maybe the NFL will give you a contract.

[Thanos]

The police should withdraw entirely from black-majority areas and let them take care of their own security. If there's a significant problem for the Bosnian community in St. Louis they should arm the fuck out of themselves and let the jury decide what's the right thing to do after the next encounter with the 'urban youth' from the 'community' goes down.

[xerxes]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

xerxes xerxes:

Correction. White police officers kill blacks. That's the difference here.

I'm pretty sure that "police officers" of any colour will kill people of any colour if attacked and it's just not an issue unless the attacker is black because, it's viewed as protecting themselves and society as opposed to being a blatant racist act perpetuated for their own personal pleasure.

People say that blacks are unfairly targeted by police because of colour and I say bullshit. Blacks are unfairly targeted because the police know that if they pull over a black man there's a strong chance they'll find something illegal either on them or in the vehicle so this has less to do with race and on hell of alot more to do with the fact that blacks commit more crimes per capita than whites which, might explain why their incarceration rate is so high.

Are they disadvantaged yes but then again so were other peoples throughout American history and they managed to claw they're way out of poverty. But, because the blacks serve a very distinct purpose for Liberals and racists they're unfairly treated by both, not just the police. The Liberals need a visibly disadvantaged group they can speak and think for to assuage their self induced white guilt, and the racists need to keep the the blacks downtrodden so they can perpetuate the myth of white superiority. The truly sad part is that alot of blacks are willing to play the victim rather than fight for their dignity and rightful place in society.

This has probably been shown on here before but it's good to remember that not all black people think like the rioters in Ferguson. This kid gets it but, because what he's saying is heresy to those 2 enlightened groups of non blacks and his own community, nobody wants to listen.

So black people have genetic predisposition for criminality is that it? Only blacks steal and kill and rape and do drugs?

Drug use rates are roughly the same for white and blacks, yet incarceration rates in US for drug offences are overwhelmingly biased against blacks.

Or let's look at Feeguson. It's suburb with an black majority population. Yet 95% of the police are white. Even traffic violations there are assessed way out of proportion for blacks there.

But this is snapshot. My point is this: are blacks naturally predisposed to crime or are there generations worth of cultural fear of blacks that make them naturally suspicious to white people?

[Xort]

xerxes xerxes:

So black people have genetic predisposition for criminality is that it? Only blacks steal and kill and rape and do drugs?

They are not the only ones that commit crimes, but they do so at a higher rate.

$1:

Drug use rates are roughly the same for white and blacks, yet incarceration rates in US for drug offences are overwhelmingly biased against blacks.

Maybe because white drug users do a better job of not drawing the attention of the police?

$1:

Or let's look at Feeguson. It's suburb with an black majority population. Yet 95% of the police are white. Even traffic violations there are assessed way out of proportion for blacks there.

Maybe blacks commit more traffic violations?

$1:

But this is snapshot. My point is this: are blacks naturally predisposed to crime or are there generations worth of cultural fear of blacks that make them naturally suspicious to white people?

Blacks in the US are cultural predisposed to commit crimes, which is reflected in the reported crimes and criminal convictions.

Even if you give blacks a 200% premium for all those evil white racists making up crimes for black people, they still would be committing a elevated number of crimes.

Statements like 17 times more likely to commit this crime, 9 times more likely to commit that crime pop up when you look at US crime rates even if you include Mexicans, sorry white Hispanics in the white crime figures.

Ask yourself this, why do natives in Canada get convicted of so many crimes? Is it because of institutional racism or native culture?

[Freakinoldguy]

xerxes xerxes:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

xerxes xerxes:

Correction. White police officers kill blacks. That's the difference here.

I'm pretty sure that "police officers" of any colour will kill people of any colour if attacked and it's just not an issue unless the attacker is black because, it's viewed as protecting themselves and society as opposed to being a blatant racist act perpetuated for their own personal pleasure.

People say that blacks are unfairly targeted by police because of colour and I say bullshit. Blacks are unfairly targeted because the police know that if they pull over a black man there's a strong chance they'll find something illegal either on them or in the vehicle so this has less to do with race and on hell of alot more to do with the fact that blacks commit more crimes per capita than whites which, might explain why their incarceration rate is so high.

Are they disadvantaged yes but then again so were other peoples throughout American history and they managed to claw they're way out of poverty. But, because the blacks serve a very distinct purpose for Liberals and racists they're unfairly treated by both, not just the police. The Liberals need a visibly disadvantaged group they can speak and think for to assuage their self induced white guilt, and the racists need to keep the the blacks downtrodden so they can perpetuate the myth of white superiority. The truly sad part is that alot of blacks are willing to play the victim rather than fight for their dignity and rightful place in society.

This has probably been shown on here before but it's good to remember that not all black people think like the rioters in Ferguson. This kid gets it but, because what he's saying is heresy to those 2 enlightened groups of non blacks and his own community, nobody wants to listen.

So black people have genetic predisposition for criminality is that it? Only blacks steal and kill and rape and do drugs?

Drug use rates are roughly the same for white and blacks, yet incarceration rates in US for drug offences are overwhelmingly biased against blacks.

Or let's look at Feeguson. It's suburb with an black majority population. Yet 95% of the police are white. Even traffic violations there are assessed way out of proportion for blacks there.

But this is snapshot. My point is this: are blacks naturally predisposed to crime or are there generations worth of cultural fear of blacks that make them naturally suspicious to white people?

Nice try but I didn't say that at all and for the record, blacks are no more genetically disposed to crime than any other race but, since they're disproportionately incarcerated and arrested there has to be reasons other than just the white police and justice system pick on us because we're black, like some of their community would have us believe.

Nobody is denying that they're incarcerated more than whites for the same crimes which is wrong but I think that has a lot more to do with economics than justice. Black people can't afford the best lawyers and end up getting public defenders who aren't as good as the high priced help. But that's life and should have no bearing on the committing of crimes. You and I can't afford F. Lee Bailey type lawyers like the rich people can but that doesn't mean that it should be used as an excuse for our committing of crimes.

As for the disproportionate number of arrests I have a question. What about cities that are almost exclusively black, policed by black officers and have black judges and civic leaders? If white people were the sole reason so many blacks were being arrested the numbers of them arrested in Detroit or Flint Michigan for example should be considerably lower than other cities because there are limited white people to do the arresting but, that isn't the case, is it? Both those cities have extremely high crime rates which indicates that the myth being perpetrated about how the police work isn't exactly true unless of course, you buy into that other great fallacy that any black who works for the police or justice system is an "Uncle Tom" and is as bad as the whites.


So unlike you, I seriously doubt that it's just the white justice system that's at fault here and it's an illness that's pervaded the black community itself. It's also unfortunate that some of the black community seems to think that victimhood is a wonderful thing especially if it furthers myths and stereotypes because, then they don't have to take a long hard look in the mirror and see that the only way they're going to fix these issues is from within and not by letting any outsiders dictate what they can and can't be. It's 2014 not 1865 and it's time for those communities to step up to the plate, stop making excuses and move ahead rather than always seeking a scapegoat for their own misfortune.

[andyt]

What is this illness and where did it come from? If it's not innate to black people, something must have happened to make them act this way (ie commit more crimes). In Canada it's the Natives that commit far more crimes/capita. Hmm, doubt if it's inborn to them either, so must be an illness. Any pattern here to discern?

Two "illnesses" that seem to come from growing up poor are brain damage in children and PTSD. Can we really just expect people dealing with these issues to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps? I know you favor govt spending more money on helping soldiers deal with PTSD - you don't just tell them to suck it up and fly right. Poor Urban neighborhoods show the same incidence of PTSD as in soldiers returning from war. So might there be a role for the larger society to play in all this?

[PublicAnimalNo9]

xerxes xerxes:

Correction. White police officers kill blacks.

And Whites, and Hispanics and the occasional Asian as well as kids and seniors.
Outside of one or two threads were I already mentioned him, did you previously hear about Dillon Taylor?
He was a 20 yr old, unarmed White guy shot and killed by police 3-4 days after Brown was killed. Sharpton had nothing to say about police injustice because apparently it's only an injustice when a Black person is shot by the cops. Eric Holder didn't put in appearance to demand justice for the victim and his family. There was no grand jury hearing and no National Bar Association making it their mission to seek justice for Taylor and his family.
The media didn't care because they were too busy fueling the racial feeding frenzy in St. Louis.

Of course maybe it didn't make the national media because a bunch of jag offs from Taylor's community didn't burn and pillage their own neighbourhood.