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Title: Convicted rapist charged in murder of Surrey teen Serena Vermeersch
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Freakinoldguy
Date: 2014-09-22 21:32:32
Canadian

[Freakinoldguy]

Just another shinning example of our justice system at work.

$1:

Caissie's bail was revoked Nov. 21, 2013 after failing to report to his probation officer on two occasions. In February 2014 he was sent to prison once again for shoplifting at a Surrey Winners store, but was released after serving 21 days in jail.

21 days? FFS this guy was the atypical dangerous offender, his criminal record showed a definite trend towards more violent crimes each time he committed one and yet they figured 21 days for breaking his parole 3 times was sufficient to put him on the straight and narrow.

I wonder how the assholes at the National Parole Board of Canada sleep at night knowing they're putting these creatures back into society? To fucking bad the victims survivors can't sue them for pain and suffering from the illuminated decision they made in this case.

[Delwin]

He wasn't on parole. He was released after serving the full 21 years from 1991 to 2013. He was on probation and may have been in breach of probation. This might have resulted in a further charge depending on his conditions. He was likely charged with it at the time of the shoplifting and stuck a bargain, pleading guilty to the shoplifting to have the breach dropped. It wouldn't have kept him out of the public for very long even if they got the extra conviction.

This isn't a result of a faulty system. They issued warnings and kept him in jail as long as they were legally able to. 21 days for shoplifting seems pretty standard.

[BartSimpson]

Delwin Delwin:

He wasn't on parole. He was released after serving the full 21 years from 1991 to 2013. He was on probation and may have been in breach of probation. This might have resulted in a further charge depending on his conditions. However, that wouldn't have kept him out of the public for very long even if they got the conviction. This isn't a result of a faulty system. They issued warnings and kept him in jail as long as they were legally able to. 21 days for shoplifting seems pretty standard.

Then he did his time.

[Delwin]

People need to stop believing that prison as a punishment is somehow going to deter criminals from acting again.

Putting someone in a cage for 10 years for a violent or sexual assault isn't going to "cure" them.

More focus needs to be put on rehabilitation and reintegration into society.

[BartSimpson]

Delwin Delwin:

People need to stop believing that prison as a punishment is somehow going to deter criminals from acting again.

Putting someone in a cage for 10 years for a violent or sexual assault isn't going to "cure" them.

More focus needs to be put on rehabilitation and reintegration into society.

Or just hang them and be done with it.

[PluggyRug]

,,,,or the 21 days on a Judas Cradle.

[Delwin]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

,,,,or the 21 days on a Judas Cradle.

Right, we should combat cruel and sadistic behavior by being cruel and sadistic. That should fix it.

[BartSimpson]

Delwin Delwin:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

,,,,or the 21 days on a Judas Cradle.

Right, we should combat cruel and sadistic behavior by being cruel and sadistic. That should fix it.

Sometimes the only way to defend civilization from cruel sadists is with cruel barbarism.

That's why the correct response to this:



...was this:

[andyt]

He had conditions placed on him after release, even tho he did the full stretch. He broke some of those conditions and thus briefly went back to jail. but the system had very little hold on him.

He himself said that he is incurable, that he doesn't mind prison and that he should just be kept locked up. He will now get his wish and never be released again. Even for the death penalty advocates, his original crime 22 years ago would never have risen to the death penalty. He did a very long stretch, that's pretty well the best we can do. There is no way to have a free society and also be totally safe from monsters. Same with terrorism: we can take a certain amount of risk or live in a police state. Even in China they are seeing terrorism now.

[PluggyRug]

Delwin Delwin:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

,,,,or the 21 days on a Judas Cradle.

Right, we should combat cruel and sadistic behavior by being cruel and sadistic. That should fix it.

Yes of course, glad you agree.

[Freakinoldguy]

andyt andyt:

He had conditions placed on him after release, even tho he did the full stretch. He broke some of those conditions and thus briefly went back to jail. but the system had very little hold on him.

He himself said that he is incurable, that he doesn't mind prison and that he should just be kept locked up. He will now get his wish and never be released again. Even for the death penalty advocates, his original crime 22 years ago would never have risen to the death penalty. He did a very long stretch, that's pretty well the best we can do. There is no way to have a free society and also be totally safe from monsters. Same with terrorism: we can take a certain amount of risk or live in a police state. Even in China they are seeing terrorism now.

Yup but they had three valid excuses to hold him for violation of his 810 peace bond and didn't which is the disgusting part. But, I saw Kash Heed on the news talking about this type of a release and he said despite the fact the peace bond is put in place for 2 years the perpetrator is usually only monitored for a couple of months and even then only intermittently due to a "lack of resources" and large amount of these types of people being released which, when you think about it is a rather terrifying concept.

All that aside. Somebody failed miserably in the job of protecting society by releasing a convicted rapist and self admitted, proven dangerous offender out on the streets and then not even bothering to do the basics of what was required of them by the utterly lacking laws that allowed him out in the first place.

So, to say that justice system has no guilt in this travesty is like saying the Captain of the Titanic had no blame for that ships sinking. Maybe, what we need is a public computer data base like Washington State that shows which communities these creatures are living in so we can at least be on the lookout for them.

I was also thinking about that woman killed at the Arena in Surrey and wondering if it wasn't one of these model citizens who committed that crime to?

[saturn_656]

Delwin Delwin:

Putting someone in a cage for 10 years for a violent or sexual assault isn't going to "cure" them.

No, but it keeps them away from the rest of us.

"Public Safety"

[andyt]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

I was also thinking about that woman killed at the Arena in Surrey and wondering if it wasn't one of these model citizens who committed that crime to?

Doubt it. This was a sex crime, the other probably not. Probably more one of the success stories of the war on drugs.