[Newsbot]

Title: Isis seizes Iraq's largest Christian town
Category: World
Posted By: martin14
Date: 2014-08-07 06:49:20

[martin14]

I imagine we'll be seeing bodies in a few days.

[2Cdo]

martin14 martin14:

I imagine we'll be seeing bodies in a few days.

If that long.

[DrCaleb]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

martin14 martin14:

I imagine we'll be seeing bodies in a few days.

If that long.

It's the hundreds of thousands that have run into the mountains without food and water that we'll never hear about.

[N_Fiddledog]

I notice there are no Commie/Islamist riots ripping up the streets of Western cities around the world while what's described by the lady in the video below is going on.



Here's the thing, we can argue on how much attention we want to pay responding to the questionable statistics and responsibility for the human shields of Gaza, but this one seems to be a no-brainer.

$1:

Will the West stand by and watch the slaughter of Yazidis, and cleansing of Christians, in Iraq?



Remember the R2P Doctrine? The Obama administration, led by Samantha Power, justified Western intervention in Libya against Moammar Qaddafi in 2011 because of the global “responsibility to protect” civilians threatened by Qaddafi’s forces in Benghazi. As J. E. Dyer wrote in 2011, “by the R2P formulation, endangered civilian populations … trump sovereignty. … According to this text, it is indeed possible to bomb another country for three months without being in “hostilities.”” We deliberately decapitated the Qaddafi regime and turned Libya into the Somalia of the Mediterranean based on the supposed threat to civilians in eastern Libya, which in retrospect looks more like a threat to the same terrorist networks that now operate with impunity there.

What about where a terrorist state actually threatens genocide and ethnic cleansing? Where is R2P when you need it? Jacob Siegel asks that question in The Daily Beast about the shameful inaction of the West as tens of thousands of Yazidis starve and thirst to death while waiting for a rescue:

[snip]

"U.S. attention, of course, is stretched thin with Gaza and Ukraine. But the near silence on Iraq is hard to square with the severity of the crisis and the initial decision to send military forces there."

Siegel notes that direct aid to the Kurds, who have the best angle for a response, is diplomatically difficult since we do not recognize Kurdish independence. But did we respect the diplomatic niceties in Libya? The point of R2P, at least as formulated by Power and Obama, was that it bypassed those relationships and international constraints, especially when a genocide is about to take place. That condition was arguable in Libya, but it certainly isn’t with ISIS in Iraq. And it’s not just the Yazidis, either:

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ISIS has conducted ethnic/religious cleansing on a massive scale for months, and is about to commit pure genocide on Mount Sinjar. The Telegraph’s Dan Hodges calls it the Rwanda of our time:

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Paul Mirengoff wrote yesterday about the hypocrisy and cowardice of the Obama administration on R2P:

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Maybe they can come up with a hashtag. It’s very revealing that R2P was good enough to knock out a dictator who was at least cooperating with the West on terrorism, but somehow inapplicable when dealing with the terrorists themselves.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/08/07/w ... s-in-iraq/

There's a tweet from somebody at the link above saying the Kurds are getting the stranded off the mountain.

[BRAH]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

martin14 martin14:

I imagine we'll be seeing bodies in a few days.

If that long.

It's the hundreds of thousands that have run into the mountains without food and water that we'll never hear about.

Right now there's apparently 40,000 trapped in the mountain and Kurds are begging the United States for help.

[N_Fiddledog]

Christian leader: ISIS beheading children

[DrCaleb]

That shit just breaks my heart.

And you are right Brah; I just watched a long line of protesters heading to the Legislature grounds; protesting an end to the Ebola outbreak. Like Ebola cares what they think.

[N_Fiddledog]

I'm not sure I get your point, but let me be clear then; when I say I don't see Commies and Islamists ripping streets apart as a result of the actual, for real genocidal atrocities taking part in Iraq, I'm talking about crap like the below in Paris, because there's human shields being left under bombs in Palestine, you see...



Or Canadians being hospitalized by attacks from broken flagpoles in Missigauga, or Canadian women being circle kicked in Calgary, or another women thrown off a planter onto the concrete in Montreal.

My point is - you wanna be outraged in our Western cities by what you call atrocities overseas, do you, Commies and Islamists? Spare a little for the enslavement of Yazidi women and the beheading of Christian children in Irag, or I'm not impressed.

[BartSimpson]

Anyone consider that ISIS are the Syria rebels that were armed by Obama?

[Freakinoldguy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Anyone consider that ISIS are the Syria rebels that were armed by Obama?

Actually it's been brought up in numerous threads.

[DrCaleb]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Anyone consider that ISIS are the Syria rebels that were armed by Obama?

Actually it's been brought up in numerous threads.

And I just read that the US is considering whether action on their part is appropriate. The irony wobbles my mind.

[desertdude]

Ah..the great results of freedom making, regime change and arming "rebels". Go into a country on trumped up charges and totally fuck it up.

May god have mercy on the people of Qaraqosh and Iraq in general, we have seen some shitty stuff in the past but these ISIS thugs are just pure evil incarnate.

I hope there is more of this ( without the tragic ending ) and less of ISIS bullshit.

http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/wo ... rak-35380/

What the fuck is the Iraqi army, police or whatever or whoever is in control in Iraq. They are just going to let these bastard run them over ?

God Bless the innocent people of Iraq and save them from this Khawarij menace.

[BRAH]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

That shit just breaks my heart.

And you are right Brah; I just watched a long line of protesters heading to the Legislature grounds; protesting an end to the Ebola outbreak. Like Ebola cares what they think.

This could become a genocide while Obama considers Military options? This is dejavu of the Rwandan genocide twenty years ago when the United States and the UN did Fuck all.

[Thanos]

Go in to save them and the Iraqis will make another bunch of promises that they don't intend to keep about some political reconcilliation. None of them, especially Malaki and his Shias, have any intention of governing fairly or in developing a fair federal system. Why should the US cough up another half-trillion and lose another thousand lives for a place, even if ISIS wasn't there, and a situation that'll never get better?