[maldonsfecht]

looks like some defections from the Ukrainian side have occurred... I wonder if it's mainly ethnic russian-soldiers... http://time.com/64518/ukraine-military- ... ramatorsk/

[PostFactum]

maldonsfecht maldonsfecht:

looks like some defections from the Ukrainian side have occurred... I wonder if it's mainly ethnic russian-soldiers... http://time.com/64518/ukraine-military- ... ramatorsk/

Read the news about soldiers with flags upper.

[maldonsfecht]

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maldonsfecht maldonsfecht:

looks like some defections from the Ukrainian side have occurred... I wonder if it's mainly ethnic russian-soldiers... http://time.com/64518/ukraine-military- ... ramatorsk/

Read the news about soldiers with flags upper.

Excellent... glad to hear it was not an actual defection...

[PostFactum]

maldonsfecht maldonsfecht:

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maldonsfecht maldonsfecht:

looks like some defections from the Ukrainian side have occurred... I wonder if it's mainly ethnic russian-soldiers... http://time.com/64518/ukraine-military- ... ramatorsk/

Read the news about soldiers with flags upper.

Excellent... glad to hear it was not an actual defection...

Some part of cops on East mede defection.

[PostFactum]

Russians took few BTR's. 4 or 5.

[DrCaleb]

$1:

Russian economy hit by Ukraine fallout; 0% growth in 2014 possible

Russia's economy has been hit hard by the Ukraine crisis, prompting finance officials to cut growth forecasts for this year to near zero and draining the country's hard currency reserves as investors flee an uncertain market, Kremlin officials disclosed Wednesday.

In an address to the lower house of parliament, Economic Development Minister Alexei Ulyukayev said $63 billion had been converted from rubles to hard currencies and taken out of the country in the first quarter of this year.

If that pace of capital flight continues, Russia could easily surpass the $120 billion lost at the height of the global economic crisis six years ago.

"The acute international situation of the past two months" was to blame, Ulyukayev said, referring to the unrest in neighboring Ukraine following the Feb. 21 ouster of President Viktor Yanukovich, a Kremlin ally. Russian troops then seized the strategic Crimean peninsula from Ukraine, raising the threat of international sanctions on Russia's vital energy trade.

The Russian stock market dropped 10% last month, wiping out further billions in capital. The ruble has lost 9% of its value since the start of the year, boosting prices for the imported food and manufactured goods on which the Russian consumer market is heavily dependent.

Western nations so far have imposed only limited sanctions on Russian officials and businessmen for what the international community has condemned as aggression and a breach of international law in annexing Crimea.

But as an estimated 40,000 Russian troops are poised on Ukraine's border, and President Vladimir Putin has vowed to protect ethnic Russians in Ukraine "by any means," the United States and the European Union have warned that any further territorial seizures by Russia will be punished with more biting sanctions like boycotts of Russian oil and gas imports.

The European Union is Russia's largest trade partner and the biggest customer for its oil and natural gas.

Russia's economy has also been dragged down by its heavy investment in eastern Ukraine industries that are idle or in decline because of the political and military turmoil, which has sent the Ukrainian hryvnia currency tumbling.

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/l ... 2232.story

[PostFactum]

Putin has a briefing right now, his words:
1) "People of west Ukraine are people of second sort"
2) "World does not understand me"
He probably has a mental disease.

[BRAH]

SNOWDEN ASKS PUTIN QUESTION ON RUSSIAN SURVEILLANCE ON LIVE TV

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/04/17/Snowden-asks-Putin-question-on-surveillance-in-phone-in
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Snowden was a Russian Spy and Putin was his handler.

[andyt]

Insurgents seized 6 Ukrainian armored vehicles. Ukrainian soldiers seem like a bunch of dorks.

[DrCaleb]

$1:

Vladimir Putin admits for first time Russian troops took over Crimea, refuses to rule out intervention in Donetsk

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday rejected claims that Russian special forces are fomenting unrest in eastern Ukraine, but recognized for the first time that the troops in unmarked uniforms who had overtaken Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula before its annexation by Moscow were Russian soldiers.

Putin expressed hope for a political and diplomatic solution of the worst East-West crisis since the Cold War, saying he hopes that he won’t have to send Russian troops into eastern Ukraine, which has been engulfed by violent protests against the new authorities in Kyiv.

Government buildings in several towns in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions have been attacked and seized in what Washington said were moves reminiscent of the events that preceded Russia’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula.

There was no other way to hold the referendum

Putin poured scorn at the West, accusing it of trying to weaken and isolate Russia and made it starkly clear that he doesn’t fear further Western sanctions.

The turmoil in Ukraine dominated the European landscape Thursday, as three protesters were killed in a clash in southern Ukraine and high-level talks were held in Geneva.

Still, the constellation of events left the nation of 46 million no closer to solving its essential challenge: the confrontation pitting Ukraine’s new government in Kyiv against a pro-Russian insurgency in its eastern regions that is being tacitly supported by Moscow.

Three pro-Russian protesters were killed and 13 injured during an attempted raid overnight on a Ukrainian National Guard base in the Black Sea port of Mariupol, Ukraine’s authorities said Wednesday.

The Interior Ministry said a mob of around 300 people armed with stun grenades and firebombs were involved in the bloodiest episode to date in the month-long insurgency.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/04/17 ... Stories%29

[Zipperfish]

Why would Putin fear Western sanction.. He'll die a billionaire. It'll be miserable for everyone else though.

My son (Grade 5) is hilarious. His take: "Isn't Russia the biggest country in the world, dad? Why don't they use up their space before taking up other people's?"

[Delwin]

The U.S. is sending non-lethal aid, which at the very least shows support:

Hagel, speaking at a press conference at the Pentagon with his Polish counterpart, said the approved aid would include medical supplies, helmets, sleeping mats, water purification units and small power generators.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04 ... ics+-+Text)

[andyt]

Tell them to send lots of white sheets to be used for surrender flags, since the Ukraine army doesn't seem capable of dealing with these insurgents. That US support seems as effective as the Ukrainian army seems to be. Just give up the phony posturing. If you're not going to do anything serious, just let it go, let Putin have what he wants. This way you get a few people killed for no good reason at all.

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andyt andyt:

Tell them to send lots of white sheets to be used for surrender flags, since the Ukraine army doesn't seem capable of dealing with these insurgents. That US support seems as effective as the Ukrainian army seems to be. Just give up the phony posturing. If you're not going to do anything serious, just let it go, let Putin have what he wants. This way you get a few people killed for no good reason at all.

According to your last posts I see that you know how to fight with Russians better. Maybe you will arrive to Ukraine, we will give you a weapon and you will show us how to fight. It's a little harder than keep your ass in warm chair in Canada, but you have to try.

[DrCaleb]

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andyt andyt:

Tell them to send lots of white sheets to be used for surrender flags, since the Ukraine army doesn't seem capable of dealing with these insurgents. That US support seems as effective as the Ukrainian army seems to be. Just give up the phony posturing. If you're not going to do anything serious, just let it go, let Putin have what he wants. This way you get a few people killed for no good reason at all.

According to your last posts I see that you know how to fight with Russians better. Maybe you will arrive to Ukraine, we will give you a weapon and you will show us how to fight. It's a little harder than keep your ass in warm chair in Canada, but you have to try.

Here's something for that burn.