[Newsbot]

Title: Obama says NSA not spying on Merkel's cellphone
Category: Uncle Sam
Posted By: martin14
Date: 2013-10-23 14:35:07

[martin14]

If Obama is denying it, you can be sure the info from Snowden is 100% true.

[Thanos]

Yup, that heroic FSB agent who gave four thumb-drives worth of goodies to the Chinese and Russians sure did the world a huge favour. Spying and surveillance? Why, this is an outrage! An outrage I tell you!

[martin14]

Thanks to Snowden, we now know the NSA:


The NSA has programs that collect data on US Supreme Court Justices and elected officials, and they secretly provide it to Israel regulated only by an honor system.(http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/s ... -documents)

Had James Clapper lie under oath to us - on camera - to Congress to hide the domestic spying programs (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/3 ... -c-w-cooke).

Warrantlessly accesses records of every phone call that routes through the US thousands of times a day (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/j ... ourt-order)(http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/n ... 96571.html)

Steals your private data from every major web company (Facebook, Google, Apple, Microsoft, et al) via PRISM (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/j ... s-nsa-data) and pays them millions for it (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/a ... anies-paid)

Pays major US telecommunications providers (AT&T, Verizon, et al) between $278,000,000-$394,000,000 annually to provide secret access to all US fiber and cellular networks (in violation of the 4th amendment). (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat ... story.html)

Intentionally weakened the encryption standards we rely on, put backdoors into critical software, and break the crypto on our private communications (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/ns ... ;_r=1&)

[Thanos]

Hell of a system, with a national security apparatus that's been growing since Lincoln suspended habeus corpus. Two things would be nice to have acknowledged though. One, as shown by things like Sept 11, 2001, there are actually legitimate enemies out there that are capable of striking both internationally and domestically; national security doesn't exist by itself in a vacuum strictly for the whims of politicians to sow panic for political gain, it's a legitimate weapon to fight real and deadly enemies with. And two, any abuses of the system didn't begin only after the inauguration in Jan 2009. Gulf of Tonkin anyone? The daily insanity of J. Edgar Hoover? The dirty tricks squad working for Richard Nixon? Iran-Contra? The slo-mo disaster of the falsified build-up to the war in Iraq?

Call out the Obama Admin all you want, but if you see this as a major problem and not just a political stunt then call out every other administration since at least World War Two as well if you're trying to claim any consistency here.

[DanSC]

Well, they're not spying on her now...

Makes me wonder if Barack had a torrid fling with Merkel at a G8 summit. He fell for her; she was disgusted by his neediness. Now he spends his nights listening to her phone calls, wishing she was saying Barack instead of Joachim.

Also, obligatory "Thanks Obama."

[Jabberwalker]

They're spying on her in the shower but they're leaving her cell phone alone (It must be a Blackberry!)

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[Thanos]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Thanos Thanos:

Hell of a system, with a national security apparatus that's been growing since Lincoln suspended habeus corpus. Two things would be nice to have acknowledged though. One, as shown by things like Sept 11, 2001, there are actually legitimate enemies out there that are capable of striking both internationally and domestically; national security doesn't exist by itself in a vacuum strictly for the whims of politicians to sow panic for political gain, it's a legitimate weapon to fight real and deadly enemies with. And two, any abuses of the system didn't begin only after the inauguration in Jan 2009. Gulf of Tonkin anyone? The daily insanity of J. Edgar Hoover? The dirty tricks squad working for Richard Nixon? Iran-Contra? The slo-mo disaster of the falsified build-up to the war in Iraq?

Call out the Obama Admin all you want, but if you see this as a major problem and not just a political stunt then call out every other administration since at least World War Two as well if you're trying to claim any consistency here.

Fuck them all!

Like I said, the kind of people you support were a very real and dangerous enemy. Still are too, though not as much as before, even if the soviet system is pretty much gone.

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[martin14]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

martin14 martin14:

Thanks to Snowden, we now know the NSA...

Here, this is neat too:

A timeline of NSA leaks so far

That's a fucking long list, man.


Gotta love the ad on the right margin, though.

NSA. The only part of government that actually listens.

Thanos Thanos:

Call out the Obama Admin all you want,

Hope and change, bitch. Remember that ?

Oh, now it's just scramble to deflect from the obvious that Obongo is just as bad..

Even worse, tbh. Much worse. That fucker is going to get us all killed.

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[N_Fiddledog]

Not to worry, the days of the NSA are soon to come to a close. True, Obama is not going to listen to the group called "We the People", but there is a group the Obombanator does listen to, and they are not happy. I'm speaking of course of celebrities.



The NSA is in real trouble now. I mean they even got Will freakin Wheaton.

[DanSC]

I would agree if Mr. Obama was running for re-election in 2016. Then he'd have to change his tone so he could pull money from the drama school alumni.