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Title: Turbans, hijabs, kippas face restrictions in Quebec; identity debate heats up
Category: Provincial Politics
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2013-08-20 13:11:15
Canadian

[martin14]

Sounds like what France has.

[DrCaleb]

And they dare to call Westerners 'rednecks'.

[BartSimpson]

Frankly, this kind of thing is in line with previous acts by the Quebeckers to assert their culture and in that sense it's not so remarkable.

See, given that Quebeck is considered to have a 'special' status then it follows that they'd act along the lines of a FN reserve with rules and laws to protect the special status of the natives over the immigrants.

I doubt this would be news were it the Mohawk Nation posting these rules for conduct on their lands.

That said, short of revoking Quebeck's 'special' status there's not really much to be done here aside from some stomping of feet and meaningless posturing.

[bambu]

The only things I have a problem with are burqas and niqabs.

Hijabs, turbans etc don't bother me...identification is easy...as long as I can see the face I'm happy.

Anything that hides the face should be banned in public.

[Jabberwalker]

My only objection is that garb like this is a declaration of the wearer's separatism from the rest of us. There is certainly room for non-conformity but a lot of this borders on insulting the already existing Canadian culture. "I wear a scarf on my head as a symbol that I'm better than you, kafir."

[Unsound]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

My only objection is that garb like this is a declaration of the wearer's separatism from the rest of us. There is certainly room for non-conformity but a lot of this borders on insulting the already existing Canadian culture. "I wear a scarf on my head as a symbol that I'm better than you, kafir."

or... I wear a scarf on my head as a symbol of modesty before my god...

but your interpretation is better. Carry on.

[bambu]

Women in hair rollers wear scarves.
Women with a 'bad hair day' wear scarves.

A girl was wearing a hijab working in Maccas [McDonalds]at Sydney airport.
It was a black one, blended in with her uniform.
When she spied my footy team's metal logo badge on my keyring, she erupted into excitement and happiness as she discovered a fellow supporter of her team.
I must says she changed my view of Muslim girls in hijabs somewhat.

[GreenTiger]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Frankly, this kind of thing is in line with previous acts by the Quebeckers to assert their culture and in that sense it's not so remarkable.

See, given that Quebeck is considered to have a 'special' status then it follows that they'd act along the lines of a FN reserve with rules and laws to protect the special status of the natives over the immigrants.

I doubt this would be news were it the Mohawk Nation posting these rules for conduct on their lands.

That said, short of revoking Quebeck's 'special' status there's not really much to be done here aside from some stomping of feet and meaningless posturing.

That is about it, I do appreciate them wanting to keep their society secular.

[Jabberwalker]

Unsound Unsound:

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

My only objection is that garb like this is a declaration of the wearer's separatism from the rest of us. There is certainly room for non-conformity but a lot of this borders on insulting the already existing Canadian culture. "I wear a scarf on my head as a symbol that I'm better than you, kafir."

or... I wear a scarf on my head as a symbol of modesty before my god...

but your interpretation is better. Carry on.

I don't see the men paying that sort of tribute to their god, do you?

[Unsound]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

I don't see the men paying that sort of tribute to their god, do you?

I don't see jewish women wearing yarmulkes, sikh men do wear head coverings, catholic nuns wear a habit, monks do not. Canadian men rarely hesitate to take their shirts off in public, Canadian women... slightly different story. Weird how different peoples, cultures, religion approach these things differently. Sometimes genders have different customs, sometimes they don't.

[Jabberwalker]

Unsound Unsound:

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

I don't see the men paying that sort of tribute to their god, do you?

I don't see jewish women wearing yarmulkes, sikh men do wear head coverings, catholic nuns wear a habit, monks do not. Canadian men rarely hesitate to take their shirts off in public, Canadian women... slightly different story. Weird how different peoples, cultures, religion approach these things differently. Sometimes genders have different customs, sometimes they don't.

Yes, that's true.

Welcome to the New World. Please check your baggage at the border.

I'm getting really tired of seeing every new immigrant group going out of their way to ghettoize themselves. This will not end in a happy, unified Canada.

[BartSimpson]

bambu bambu:

Anything that hides the face should be banned in public.

IMHO there should be exceptions to that rule depending upon the face in question.

[GreenTiger]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

bambu bambu:

Anything that hides the face should be banned in public.

IMHO there should be exceptions to that rule depending upon the face in question.

This is the kind of face that should be painted on the bow of a war ship.

[Unsound]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

Yes, that's true.

Welcome to the New World. Please check your baggage at the border.

So... i should stop eating pickled herring? Cause that's almost as harmless as the hijabs that you seem to be so bothered by. Or any other head covering. i agree that covering the face in public makes most of us uncomfortable, but i don't know if "uncomfortable" is reason enough to ban something. That said, I do agree that they need to be willing to uncover their faces in certain situations like court or for driver's licensing.

I'm getting really tired of seeing every new immigrant group going out of their way to ghettoize themselves. This will not end in a happy, unified Canada.

Immigrant groups have ghettoized themselves since there were immigrant groups. 2nd and 3rd generation slowly start integrating and moving away from their exclusive ethnic groups. Look up some of the new stories and studies from the last century when the big concern was if the catholics would ever be able to integrate into our western society.