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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:03 am
 


Title: Illinois becomes last state to allow 'concealed carry'
Category: Uncle Sam
Posted By: martin14
Date: 2013-07-10 02:01:33


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:03 am
 


'The last state'..

Does that mean all 50 US states now have some form of CC permission ?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:26 am
 


From the Map I just looked at http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry ... _maps.html

it looks like all states have some form of CC law. Illinois just canceled theirs.

Don't click on the top tabs just scroll down and it shows you a map. Just below that it tells you about Illinois canceling theirs.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:54 am
 


These people are so idiotic:

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...opponents of the concealed carry law feared it would allow virtually unregulated possession of handguns in the city of Chicago, which is grappling with a severe gun violence epidemic.


Seems to me Chicago already has virtually unregulated possession of handguns. :idea:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:29 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Seems to me Chicago already has virtually unregulated possession of handguns. :idea:

You can either have strict enforcement of parking regulations or strict enforcement of gun regulations; not both. Apparently.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:36 am
 


DanSC DanSC:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Seems to me Chicago already has virtually unregulated possession of handguns. :idea:

You can either have strict enforcement of parking regulations or strict enforcement of gun regulations; not both. Apparently.


No, the primary problem is that the majority of firearms-related crimes in Chicago are committed by black people and the politicians and police are loathe to enforce the existing gun laws for fear of being called 'racists' when the police disproportionately pursue 14-30 year old black men.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:02 am
 


Maybe one day in Canada, we will be able to actually obtain and ATC for the protection of life.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:09 am
 


Nobody is threatening my life,now. If I "carried", there is a dramatically increased likelihood that someone will. If everybody "carried" the odds multiply throughout our country and we end up in a shooting gallery.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:34 am
 


Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:
Nobody is threatening my life,now. If I "carried", there is a dramatically increased likelihood that someone will. If everybody "carried" the odds multiply throughout our country and we end up in a shooting gallery.


Reductio ad absurdum.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:51 am
 


Well, that is more or less the way that the Americans got into their current pickle. The "arms race" between neighbour's citizens gives you bathroom guns, bedroom guns, kitchen guns, garage guns, family room guns, car guns,....

Absurdum is the wordum.


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Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:
Well, that is more or less the way that the Americans got into their current pickle. The "arms race" between neighbour's citizens gives you bathroom guns, bedroom guns, kitchen guns, garage guns, family room guns, car guns,....

Absurdum is the wordum.


No, it's not. The consensus for why the US is the way it is comes down to "trust". They don't. We do.

Your argument assumes you will revert to a wild west mentality and start shooting skateboarders, bad drivers and homeless people randomly because you are licensed to carry a gun.

What? You wouldn't? So why would you assume everyone else would? Reductio ad Absurdum.


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Your argument assumes you will revert to a wild west mentality and start shooting skateboarders, bad drivers and homeless people randomly because you are licensed to carry a gun.

Obviously he wouldn't; he's not American.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:12 am
 


DanSC DanSC:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Your argument assumes you will revert to a wild west mentality and start shooting skateboarders, bad drivers and homeless people randomly because you are licensed to carry a gun.

Obviously he wouldn't; he's not American.


Yes, sorry I forgot. Every state that allows concealed carry immediately becomes a scene from every 80's era cop show.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:19 am
 


Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:
Nobody is threatening my life,now. If I "carried", there is a dramatically increased likelihood that someone will. If everybody "carried" the odds multiply throughout our country and we end up in a shooting gallery.


sorry buddy but 15 years of CCW in the US have proved you wrong. Next...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:36 am
 


Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:
Nobody is threatening my life,now. If I "carried", there is a dramatically increased likelihood that someone will. If everybody "carried" the odds multiply throughout our country and we end up in a shooting gallery.


Absurd logic. Like saying that owning a fire extinguisher raises your odds of having a fire.


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